RE: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-16 Thread Marcin Gondek
Subject: Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service Hello, we would be happy to collaborate to deploy and extend the ARTEMIS open-source software tool for monitoring, detection and potential automated mitigation of prefix hijacks, available on GitHub at https

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Vasileios Kotronis
Hello, we would be happy to collaborate to deploy and extend the ARTEMIS open-source software tool for monitoring, detection and potential automated mitigation of prefix hijacks, available on GitHub at https://github.com/FORTH-ICS-INSPIRE/artemis . Current monitoring sources include RIS li

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake Job Snijders (j...@ntt.net) on Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:16:06PM +0200: > > I recognise the issue you describe, and I'd like to share with you that > we're going down another road. Nowadays, RIPE NCC offers a streaming API > ("RIS Live") which has the data needed to analyse and correlate

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Douglas C. Stephens via NANOG
I would like to point out another more straightforward ignorant UI design decision for this new service. The login screen assumes and requires all Cisco.com account usernames to be email addresses. Many are not, especially for folks like me who have had theirs for decades. On 5/15/2019 4:50 AM,

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Patrick McEvilly
https://honestnetworker.net/2019/01/31/recent-bgpmon-net-announcement/ From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 8:35 AM To: Hank Nussbacher Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a usefu

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
ect: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service I have started to use Cisco Crosswork Network Insights which is the replacement for BGPmon and I am shocked at how Cisco has managed to destroy a useful tool. I have had a paid 50 prefix account since the day BGPmon became ava

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread hank
https://bgpmon.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/BGPMon.net-EOL-EOS-faq.pdfOn May 15, 2019 14:52, "Mann, Jason" wrote: ​Is BGPmon going away? From: NANOG on behalf of Hank Nussbacher Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:50 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights -

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:52:16AM +, Mann, Jason via NANOG wrote: > ?Is BGPmon going away? Yes, see https://bgpmon.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/BGPMon.net-EOL-EOS-faq.pdf Kind regards, Job

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Mann, Jason via NANOG
?Is BGPmon going away? From: NANOG on behalf of Hank Nussbacher Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:50 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service I have started to use Cisco Crosswork Network Insights

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:37:57AM +0100, Carlos Friaças wrote: > It relies *exclusively* on "RIPE RIS Live", or does it also use other > sources? The first useful version will rely exclusively on the "RIS Live" interface. In a later stage we can consider adding something like the NLNOG Looking Gl

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Carlos Friaças via NANOG
Hi Job, All, It relies *exclusively* on "RIPE RIS Live", or does it also use other sources? Regards, Carlos On Wed, 15 May 2019, Job Snijders wrote: Hi, I recognise the issue you describe, and I'd like to share with you that we're going down another road. Nowadays, RIPE NCC offers a str

Re: Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Job Snijders
Hi, I recognise the issue you describe, and I'd like to share with you that we're going down another road. Nowadays, RIPE NCC offers a streaming API ("RIS Live") which has the data needed to analyse and correlate BGP UPDATES seen in the wild to business rules you as operator define. NTT folks are

Cisco Crosswork Network Insights - or how to destroy a useful service

2019-05-15 Thread Hank Nussbacher
I have started to use Cisco Crosswork Network Insights which is the replacement for BGPmon and I am shocked at how Cisco has managed to destroy a useful tool.I have had a paid 50 prefix account since the day BGPmon became available and helped two clients implement a 500 prefix license over the