Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-06 Thread James Jun
On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 06:57:27AM -0500, Fletcher Kittredge wrote: > A big issue you don't mention is the easement, the legal right to place > conduit. What does it mean to buy conduit if you don't have an easement on > the property to use the conduit? Typically, in large telecom installs like

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Message - From: "Fletcher Kittredge" To: "James Jun" Cc: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG" Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 5:57:27 AM Subject: Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing A big issue you don't mention is the easement, the legal right to place conduit.

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-06 Thread Fletcher Kittredge
A big issue you don't mention is the easement, the legal right to place conduit. What does it mean to buy conduit if you don't have an easement on the property to use the conduit? On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 5:28 PM James Jun wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 01:15:11PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: >

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-05 Thread Mike Hammett
s Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "James Jun" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 4:26:36 PM Subject: Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 01:15:11PM -0600, Mi

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-05 Thread James Jun
On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 01:15:11PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: > I've been following your work on LinkedIn. Great stuff. > > > I'm actually in a situation where I am on both sides of the transaction. I've > got a network I built that I've been asked pricing on and interested in > growth

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-05 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 1:14 PM James Jun wrote: > it is important to contact the property owner and the owner of the wayleave > (i.e. carrier owning the conduit system on private property) for > permission/license to enter, and never assume that just because > a conduit is in private property and

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-05 Thread James Jun
On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 12:36:27PM -0800, William Herrin wrote: > > One quick note: conduit on private property, such as the tail of a > telco conduit serving a small office complex, is almost always a > fixture of the property belonging to whoever owns the land. Even > though the telco installed

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-05 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 10:13 AM James Jun wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 11:21:09AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: > > How have you seen empty conduits sold? Entire route only, or is a partial > > route okay? Twenty years only or less? Price compared to cost of > > construction? Ongoing

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Sunday, February 5, 2023 12:13:43 PM Subject: Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 11:21:09AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: > I know that location matters, but I hope to be location agnostic. > > How have you seen empty conduits sold? Entire route only, or is a partial

Re: Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-05 Thread James Jun
On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 11:21:09AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: > I know that location matters, but I hope to be location agnostic. > > How have you seen empty conduits sold? Entire route only, or is a partial > route okay? Twenty years only or less? Price compared to cost of > construction?

Conduit Lease/IRU Pricing

2023-02-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I know that location matters, but I hope to be location agnostic. How have you seen empty conduits sold? Entire route only, or is a partial route okay? Twenty years only or less? Price compared to cost of construction? Ongoing maintenance costs? -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing