> On Sep 8, 2020, at 4:38 AM, Eliot Lear via NANOG wrote:
>
> I'm sure Dave Crocker has thoughts about this, but it has come up elsewhere.
> There are both positives and negatives about having such a consolidation.
> The positive is that it a small club can establish ground rules for how
I find this question interesting (obviously because I'm responding to
the list) and have done for decades.
Providing a reasonable email solution has become more and more complex
while public perception is that email should be, and is, free.
I see lots of sides to this debate, some have
This is being portrayed a little too "either/or", that if you get spam
etc from $BIGEMAIL you, service provider, block them.
What goes on is multi-layer spam blocking using various tools rather
than host/server blocking except as a last resort.
So we'll block/toss/etc a lot of the malmail from
On 08.09.20 16:59, Matt Harris wrote:
The positive is that it a small club can establish ground rules for
how they will handle various forms of attacks, including BGP
hijacking, DKIM, SPF, and other forms of validation to identify
fraudulent mail, etc. [...] They can also very
On 9/8/2020 10:59 AM, Matt Harris via NANOG wrote:
Once you get into that small club, it's just as hard to get kicked
out, and unfortunately that means that if abuse, UCE, etc is coming
from those hosts, they've got an even higher chance of hitting your
inbox. So while in theory it might work
a scenario where
Microsoft/Google does something “bad” with their email platform that affects
the rest of the ecosystem.
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Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 4:47 AM
To: Mike Hammett , NANOG
Subject: Re: Consolidation of Email Platforms Bad for Email?
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 6:43 AM Eliot Lear via NANOG wrote:
> The positive is that it a small club can establish ground
I'm sure Dave Crocker has thoughts about this, but it has come up
elsewhere. There are both positives and negatives about having such a
consolidation. The positive is that it a small club can establish
ground rules for how they will handle various forms of attacks,
including BGP hijacking, DKIM,
spam filtering
No shortage of open relays and hacked Matt Wright formmail.pl
Whoever heard of backup?
(etc)
--srs
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Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 3:57:27 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Consolidation of Email
I originally asked on mailops, but here is a much wider net and I suspect
there's a lot of overlap in interest.
I had read an article one time, somewhere about the ongoing consolidation of
e-mail into a handful of providers was bad for the Internet as a whole. It was
some time ago and
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