RE: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

2012-11-19 Thread MailPlus| David Hofstee
fixed... --- David Hofstee -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Yunhong Gu [mailto:g...@google.com] Verzonden: donderdag 15 november 2012 18:29 Aan: Jay Ford CC: MailPlus| David Hofstee; nanog@nanog.org Onderwerp: Re: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

2012-11-15 Thread MailPlus| David Hofstee
Hi, We've been seeing automatic RRSIG records on Google DNS lately, the 8.8.8.8 en 8.8.4.4. They are not always provided. They cause problems for some of our customers in a weird way I cannot explain. For them these records do not resolve but I cannot reproduce it. So when I run dig command

Re: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

2012-11-15 Thread Yunhong Gu
Hi, David I work at Google Public DNS and will take a look at this issue. No RRSIG should be returned unless the client set the DO bit to ask for it. Thanks Yunhong On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM, MailPlus| David Hofstee da...@mailplus.nl wrote: Hi, We've been seeing automatic RRSIG records

RE: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

2012-11-15 Thread MailPlus| David Hofstee
- Van: Yunhong Gu [mailto:g...@google.com] Verzonden: donderdag 15 november 2012 15:47 Aan: MailPlus| David Hofstee CC: nanog@nanog.org Onderwerp: Re: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec Hi, David I work at Google Public DNS and will take a look at this issue. No RRSIG should

RE: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

2012-11-15 Thread Jay Ford
It looks like if the server has the RRSIG RR, it returns it. For example, a query with +dnssec will cause it to cache the RRSIG, after which it returns it even if +dnssec not specified. Jay Ford, Network Engineering Group,

Re: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

2012-11-15 Thread Yunhong Gu
Hi, we have found the bug that caused this problem. It was introduced in a very recent release. The fix is on its way. Thanks very much for the report, Yunhong On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Jay Ford jay-f...@uiowa.edu wrote: It looks like if the server has the RRSIG RR, it returns it. For

RE: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

2012-11-15 Thread Tony Finch
Jay Ford jay-f...@uiowa.edu wrote: It looks like if the server has the RRSIG RR, it returns it. For example, a query with +dnssec will cause it to cache the RRSIG, after which it returns it even if +dnssec not specified. It's weird. If you repeatedly query 8.8.4.4 without the DO bit, you get