Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Jorge Amodio
> If you want to keep your domains, don't use .com or .net. or .jobs, .names, .edu. -J

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Alan Hodgson
On December 3, 2010, David Conrad wrote: > When folks with guns and little sense of humor show up at your door with > a sealed court ordered warrant relating to resources you have direct > authority over, would you tell them to talk to a retailer for that > resource? Oh, and don't forget VeriSign

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread John R. Levine
yea... so I wonder if the NCFTA folks would pony up warrants for things like the content highlighted by www.abuse.ch ? They do all sorts of stuff, but for obvious reasons they don't gossip about it in public. Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummi

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread John R. Levine
I think Verisign DBMS acts as a registrar for ccTLDs. No, they're a registry. Not the same thing. The registry holds the definitive database and manages the DNS zone. Registrars face the public and use some sort of API to pass the changes to the registry. Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.c

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, David Conrad wrote: > On Dec 3, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> thanks... so, in this case, why did they take this action? > > When folks with guns and little sense of humor show up at your door with a > sealed court ordered warrant relating to resou

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* John R. Levine: >>> We do remember, don't we, that the domain that started this discussion >>> were shut down by Verisign, the registry, not a registrar? > >> interesting that in THIS case the registry just took the action, was >> the domain registered through their registrar arm? > > They haven

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread David Conrad
On Dec 3, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > thanks... so, in this case, why did they take this action? When folks with guns and little sense of humor show up at your door with a sealed court ordered warrant relating to resources you have direct authority over, would you tell them to

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread sth
Does anyone have any experience with eNom in this regard -- compliance and operating under 'pressure' from outside authorities? --sth On Dec 2, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: > We use OpenSRS and never have these issues. Many of the other major > registrars will freeze domains for whatev

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread mikea
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 10:49:47AM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:45 AM, John R. Levine wrote: > >>> We do remember, don't we, that the domain that started this discussion > >>> were shut down by Verisign, the registry, not a registrar? > >> interesting that in THI

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:45 AM, John R. Levine wrote: >>> We do remember, don't we, that the domain that started this discussion >>> were shut down by Verisign, the registry, not a registrar? > >> interesting that in THIS case the registry just took the action, was >> the domain registered throug

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread John R. Levine
We do remember, don't we, that the domain that started this discussion were shut down by Verisign, the registry, not a registrar? interesting that in THIS case the registry just took the action, was the domain registered through their registrar arm? They haven't had a registrar arm since they

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Levine wrote: > We do remember, don't we, that the domain that started this discussion > were shut down by Verisign, the registry, not a registrar? what's super fun here is that often in conversations with registries about domains used for malware/spam/etc

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
I'm not asking them to evade court orders, but rather keep their face out of my business unless absolutely required. Other major registrars seem to have a major issue with this. Jeff On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Levine wrote: >>We use OpenSRS and never have these issues. Many of the oth

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread John Levine
>We use OpenSRS and never have these issues. Many of the other major >registrars will freeze domains for whatever reason they choose. >OpenSRS basically fulfills their duties to ICANN and leaves it alone >at that. The only domain I have ever seen them get involved with was >along time ago when some

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-02 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
We use OpenSRS and never have these issues. Many of the other major registrars will freeze domains for whatever reason they choose. OpenSRS basically fulfills their duties to ICANN and leaves it alone at that. The only domain I have ever seen them get involved with was along time ago when someone s

Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-02 Thread Deepak Jain
Has this process matured or is it still a wild-west kind of thing? Last time I saw this, it was with a LARGE registrar and we had to threaten them with a TRO before they'd even put their lawyers on the phone. It was a few years ago. This time the issue is with DOTSTER and they never even bother