Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 7/5/22 15:27, Glenn Kelley wrote: I fully expect this to come down to someone needing to be an "engineer." From an FCC standpoint, at one time an FCC-issued operator license was required to maintain licensed radio equipment. First Class for radio and television broadcasting, Second Class

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Brandon Martin
On 7/5/22 18:27, Glenn Kelley wrote: I fully expect this to come down to someone needing to be an "engineer." The term "Professional Engineer" is a protected term in all 50 US states to my knowledge. It requires the qualifications and licensure you'd expect with the typical path being ABET

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
I fully expect this to come down to someone needing to be an "engineer." I went through some hell using the name Connectivity Engineer in Virginia. So much so that I tend not to take jobs there if I can help it. Other states - not a problem. I have a ton of certifications with the name engineer

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 11:52 AM Bryan Fields wrote: > On 7/5/22 1:58 PM, Andrew Latham wrote: > > I read https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-22-543A1.pdf and a PE > is > > not required. > > I'd agree. > > 47 CFR § 1.7004(d) > "All providers also shall submit a certification of the

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Josh Luthman
As of last week our discussions with the FCC have still not determined the official ruling. Again, my personal opinion is that it will not require a PE stamp but rather depend on an individual to be a professional engineer. On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 3:39 PM Andrew Latham wrote: > Josh, you are

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Andrew Latham
Josh, you are correct, I linked to the wrong document. On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 1:36 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Andrew, > > Where does it say that it is or is not required? This is a request for > clarification filed by the CCA. > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 1:59 PM Andrew Latham wrote: > >> I read

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Andrew, Where does it say that it is or is not required? This is a request for clarification filed by the CCA. On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 1:59 PM Andrew Latham wrote: > I read https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-22-543A1.pdf and a PE > is not required. > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 9:47 AM

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Bryan Fields
On 7/5/22 1:58 PM, Andrew Latham wrote: > I read https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-22-543A1.pdf and a PE is > not required. I'd agree. 47 CFR § 1.7004(d) "All providers also shall submit a certification of the accuracy of its submissions by a qualified engineer. The engineering

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Jared Mauch
Yeah the big thing I’ve seen is that companies have historically over claimed on their 477 reports in weird and interesting ways. I understand why and how it happens, for example, if we do a HH meet for service at location X in census tract 2020-01 and I have a 2 mile loop to location Y in

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Andrew Latham
I read https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-22-543A1.pdf and a PE is not required. On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 9:47 AM KCI Dave Logan via NANOG wrote: > Hi all. We operate a small regional ISP in Colorado, but no size is too > small to ignore the FCC, as you all know. > > We're really

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Brough Turner
Brian Webster (of wirelessmapping.com) has partnered with Carmeron Crum to address BDC reporting here: https://www.regulatorysolutions.us/index.html And if you are a member of WISPA, there's been discussions and some good webinars there. Thanks, Brough Brough Turner netBlazr Inc. – Free your

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Tom Mitchell
Reach out to the folks at IP Architechs (https://iparchitechs.com/), Readitech (https://engr.readitech.com/) or any of the good PE firms and they can help. -- Tom On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 8:44 AM KCI Dave Logan via NANOG wrote: > Hi all. We operate a small regional ISP in Colorado, but no size

Re: FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread Josh Luthman
There still is no clarification on the requirement of an official PE stamp. My personal feeling is that if it's not decided by now, the week after filing opens, it would be an unreasonable burden for filers. I believe it's more "professional engineer" like a CPNI for CBRS. On Tue, Jul 5, 2022

FCC BDC engineer?

2022-07-05 Thread KCI Dave Logan via NANOG
Hi all. We operate a small regional ISP in Colorado, but no size is too small to ignore the FCC, as you all know. We're really struggling to find the required engineer for the filing, and we're small enough that we don't have an officer with engineering credentials. Any pointers in the