Hi Sabri
The flight cancellations are already happening, now if weather threatens to
make a RA required approach necessary at an airport covered by a 5G NOTAM
the flight is frequently cancelled.
Have you not noticed that during inclement
weather this year the number of cancellations has vastly
[replying to both to reduce the number of mails]
- On Jun 6, 2022, at 5:31 PM, Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org wrote:
>> On Jun 6, 2022, at 09:55, John R. Levine wrote:
>> Instead the FAA stuck their fingers in their ears and said no, nothing can
>> ever
>> change, we can't hear you.
Here’s the problem
FCC ignored the rest of the world and EU’s 5G deployment in the rest of
the world 5G base stations have half the EIRP of their US counterparts and
the antenna systems use downtilt so 5G coverage on the ground is better and
RADALT operation is largely unaffected except for
On 6/6/22 07:55, John R. Levine wrote:
Five years ago everyone knew that C band was coming. A reasonable
response would have been for the FAA to work with the FCC to figure
out which altimeters might be affected (old cruddy ones, we now know),
and come up with a plan and schedule to replace
> On Jun 6, 2022, at 09:55, John R. Levine wrote:
>
> Five years ago everyone knew that C band was coming. A reasonable response
> would have been for the FAA to work with the FCC to figure out which
> altimeters might be affected (old cruddy ones, we now know), and come up with
> a plan and
And here are some actual test results:
https://www.rtca.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/SC-239-5G-Interference-Assessment-Report_274-20-PMC-2073_accepted_changes.pdf
People who understand radios don't think much of that report or the
similar AVSI one. If its claims were true, planes would be
- On Jun 5, 2022, at 6:17 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
Hi,
> Harold Feld did a much better job in November:
>
> https://wetmachine.com/tales-of-the-sausage-factory/what-the-eff-faa-my-insanely-long-field-guide-to-the-faa-fcc-5g-c-band-fight/
Right. From his article:
> But in any
They had 5 years to do that, and didn’t start until the very last minute.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 5, 2022, at 8:41 PM, Doug Royer wrote:
>
>
> On 6/5/22 17:14, sro...@ronan-online.com wrote:
>> They had 5 years, and did NOTHING. No amount of time would have changed that.
>>
>> Shane
>>
On 6/5/22 17:14, sro...@ronan-online.com wrote:
They had 5 years, and did NOTHING. No amount of time would have changed that.
Shane
It is not that simple. And they have done a lot of work. Much more than NOTHING.
These are primarily used in low visibility situations. How many crashed
They had 5 years, and did NOTHING. No amount of time would have changed that.
Shane
> On Jun 5, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Doug Royer wrote:
>
>
>> On 6/5/22 13:01, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>> John Levine wrote:
>>> It appears that Crist Clark said:
ProPublica published an investigative report
On 6/5/22 13:01, Miles Fidelman wrote:
John Levine wrote:
It appears that Crist Clark said:
ProPublica published an investigative report on it last week,
https://www.propublica.org/article/fcc-faa-5g-planes-trump-biden
Whaddya know. Plenty of blame to go around. Government regulative bodies
It appears that Miles Fidelman said:
>> Harold Feld did a much better job in November:
>>
>> https://wetmachine.com/tales-of-the-sausage-factory/what-the-eff-faa-my-insanely-long-field-guide-to-the-faa-fcc-5g-c-band-fight/
>Well... a bit better look at the politics & motivations of the folks
On 2022-06-05, at 22:01, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> Still doesn't address whether or not C band radios break radio altimeters.
The discussion reminds me of the early 1990s, when mobile phones became
pocketable.
There was some talk about how emissions from mobile phones that people take
into
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From: "Crist Clark"
To: "nanog@nanog.org list"
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2022 12:18:20 AM
Subject: FCC vs FAA Story
There was a lively thread on NANOG about the FCC and FAA conflict over G5
spectrum and altimeters when it all came to a head early this year. P
John Levine wrote:
It appears that Crist Clark said:
ProPublica published an investigative report on it last week,
https://www.propublica.org/article/fcc-faa-5g-planes-trump-biden
Whaddya know. Plenty of blame to go around. Government regulative bodies
captured by the industries they’re
It appears that Crist Clark said:
>ProPublica published an investigative report on it last week,
>
>https://www.propublica.org/article/fcc-faa-5g-planes-trump-biden
>
>Whaddya know. Plenty of blame to go around. Government regulative bodies
>captured by the industries they’re supposed to
There was a lively thread on NANOG about the FCC and FAA conflict over G5
spectrum and altimeters when it all came to a head early this year.
ProPublica published an investigative report on it last week,
https://www.propublica.org/article/fcc-faa-5g-planes-trump-biden
Whaddya know. Plenty of
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