RE: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-21 Thread Kevin Burke
@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:18 AM To: 'Pete@TCC'; Jean-Francois Mezei; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: FTTH ONTs and routers FYI, Calix has GPON support for the 836GE ONT on the E7 today, and it will be supported in GPON mode in Release 9.0 on the C7. Frank

RE: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-17 Thread Frank Bulk
@nanog.org Subject: Re: FTTH ONTs and routers There are many ONTs out there with various abilities. I can only comment on what I deploy, and what various telcos deploy that I am familiar with. A few years ago, all of our AE and GPON ONTs were deployed as bridges. Port 1 was generally

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 07:11:20 PM Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: Can anyone confirm whether ONTs generally have routing (aka: home router that does the PPPoE or DHCP and then NAT for home) capabilities? I know of a well-known vendor coming out with a new OLT that supports both typical GPON

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 07:24:33 PM Aled Morris wrote: I notice Cisco's new ME4600 ONT's come in two flavors, one (the Residential GateWay) with all the bells and whistles that you'd expect in an all-in-one home router (voice ports, small ethernet switch, wifi access point) and another

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu On Thursday, May 15, 2014 07:24:33 PM Aled Morris wrote: I notice Cisco's new ME4600 ONT's come in two flavors, one (the Residential GateWay) with all the bells and whistles that you'd expect in an all-in-one home router

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-16 Thread Pete@TCC
There are many ONTs out there with various abilities. I can only comment on what I deploy, and what various telcos deploy that I am familiar with. A few years ago, all of our AE and GPON ONTs were deployed as bridges. Port 1 was generally an Internet VLAN, and port 2,3,4 were IPTV VLANs.

FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
It had been my impression that ONTs, like most other consumer modems, came with built-in router capabilities (along with ATA for voice). The assertion that ONTs have built-in routing capabilities has been challenged. Can anyone confirm whether ONTs generally have routing (aka: home router that

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 15, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: It had been my impression that ONTs, like most other consumer modems, came with built-in router capabilities (along with ATA for voice). The assertion that ONTs have built-in routing capabilities has been

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Scott Helms
Jean-Francois, I've seen it done both ways, and _usually_ newer ONTs will have the capacity even if its not used. Having said that there is no real standardization between vendors other than the physical layer (and even that's not great) so what's common for one vendor may well be unheard of for

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Aled Morris
I notice Cisco's new ME4600 ONT's come in two flavors, one (the Residential GateWay) with all the bells and whistles that you'd expect in an all-in-one home router (voice ports, small ethernet switch, wifi access point) and another (the Single Family Unit) that looks a lot more basic and is likely

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Clayton Zekelman
At 01:11 PM 15/05/2014, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: It had been my impression that ONTs, like most other consumer modems, came with built-in router capabilities (along with ATA for voice). The assertion that ONTs have built-in routing capabilities has been challenged. By who? Can anyone

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
Many thanks for the answers so far. On 14-05-15 13:35, Clayton Zekelman wrote: The assertion that ONTs have built-in routing capabilities has been challenged. By who? A rather large company in Canada whose name contains the last name of the inventor of the Telephone :-) (actually from their

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Shawn L
Calix makes a number of ONTs some with residential gateways, some that are just bridges On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Aled Morris al...@qix.co.uk wrote: I notice Cisco's new ME4600 ONT's come in two flavors, one (the Residential GateWay) with all the bells and whistles that you'd expect in

Re: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 15 May 2014, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: Are there examples where a telco has deployed ONTs with the router built-in and enabled ? Or would almost all FTTH deployments be made with any routing disabled and the ONT acting as a pure ethernet bridge ? Can we please stop equating FTTH and

RE: FTTH ONTs and routers

2014-05-15 Thread Frank Bulk
-Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Shawn L Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:12 PM To: nanog Subject: Re: FTTH ONTs and routers Calix makes a number of ONTs some with residential gateways, some that are just bridges On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Aled Morris