Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-29 Thread Arie Vayner
Actually, this can be achieved easily using reflexive ACLs on any Cisco router, so no real need to change the topology or add new devices in the path: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps1018/products_tech_note09186a00800a5b9a.shtml#reflexacl Arie On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:26 PM,

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Joe Greco
I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? you are implying that they are not allowed to multi-home using the ip

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:43 PM, ML m...@kenweb.org wrote: I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us.  How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? Hi, Are they

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Joe Provo
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 09:41:09AM -0600, Joe Greco wrote: [attributions lost] I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/27/09 8:43 PM, ML wrote: I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? I've had two customers pull this stunt in the

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Joe Greco
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 09:41:09AM -0600, Joe Greco wrote: [attributions lost] I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread ML
Brielle Bruns wrote: On 11/27/09 8:43 PM, ML wrote: I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? I've had two customers

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Duane Waddle
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote: My partner Tammy says a PIX could probably accomplish the same task (we have some here for the corp lan stuff, including spares). Yes, a PIX/ASA would stop this cold. The TCP state tracking would not allow traffic to pass

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Brielle Bruns
: Duane Waddle To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Finding asymmetric path Sent: Nov 28, 2009 1:26 PM On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote: My partner Tammy says a PIX could probably accomplish the same task (we have some here for the corp lan stuff, including spares

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, ML m...@kenweb.org wrote: Brielle is correct.  The customer in question is spamming networks and we are having trouble filtering them because another provider allows them to source traffic however they please. What trouble? SMTP requires two-way traffic with a

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Randy Bush
Brielle is correct. The customer in question is spamming networks and we are having trouble filtering them because another provider allows them to source traffic however they please. then perhaps the issue is a bit larger than their traffic incoming to you. disconnect the schmucks. randy

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Yes - term the account would be my recommendation And if you filter port 25 traffic do it both ways Read these old nanog threads .. http://www.irbs.net/internet/nanog/0408/0465.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/na...@merit.edu/msg28863.html On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:58 AM, William Herrin

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Jorge Amodio
Brielle is correct.  The customer in question is spamming networks and we are having trouble filtering them because another provider allows them to source traffic however they please. If they are spamming just pull the plug, whatever revenue you get from them is not worth your reputation and

Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread ML
I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us?

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread Randy Bush
I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? you are implying that they are not allowed to multi-home using the ip space

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread ML
Randy Bush wrote: I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? you are implying that they are not allowed to multi-home

RE: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread Stefan Fouant
-Original Message- From: ML [mailto:m...@kenweb.org] Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:44 PM I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread Randy Bush
I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? you are implying that they are not allowed to multi-home using the ip space

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: perhaps it is fear of what they, possibly mistakenly, perceive to be your policy regarding announcement of space that keeps them from announcing normally to both, or more, links? or maybe just better pricing on the other