Re: List of GMAIL DNS *clients*?

2024-02-29 Thread Peter Potvin via NANOG
tps://support.google.com/a/answer/60764?hl=en> Kind regards, Peter Potvin On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 16:17 wrote: > > Occasionally one of our log analyzers will block gmail DNS requests > causing bounces when gmail claims our domain(s) are not authenticated, > they can't get to our SPF etc. > &g

List of GMAIL DNS *clients*?

2024-02-29 Thread bzs
Occasionally one of our log analyzers will block gmail DNS requests causing bounces when gmail claims our domain(s) are not authenticated, they can't get to our SPF etc. I'd like to whitelist them but does anyone know the list of IP blocks I need? -- -Barry Shein Software Tool &

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-05 Thread Dan Mahoney (Gushi)
accordance with the current form of BCP and the further obligation to keep up with the current definition of current BCP. Let's talk about professionals? Even assuming these grep's aren't perfect: Number of gmail from/to messages in our last logs: # bzgrep gmail /var/log/maillog* | grep google.c

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-05 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Apr 4, 2022, at 08:13 , Robert Kisteleki wrote: > > > On 2022-04-03 07:18, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >> I’ve not experienced this problem sending emails via IPv6 to gmail >> destinations from my personal domain. >> (delong.com <http://delong.com>

Re: [nanog] opendkim (was: Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email)

2022-04-04 Thread Dan Mahoney (Gushi)
On Mon, 4 Apr 2022, Bjørn Mork wrote: "John Levine" writes: It appears that Michael Thomas said: On 4/3/22 12:12 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote: On a slightly related subject... This DKIM failure surprised me, but at least I verified that many NANOG subscribers have mailservers returning DMARC

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-04 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
> On Apr 4, 2022, at 9:39 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 07:44:59PM -0500, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: >> I’m running into this with clients for whom we do web site work. >> Mail not being delivered to Gmail accounts. No bounceback, not >> being delaye

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-04 Thread Robert Kisteleki
Accepting mail for delivery, and then either silently dropping it, delaying it for days, or putting mail that in no way resembles spam into a spam folder seems a little worse than “doing what the standards say”. If you’re going to decide, on little or no evidence, that a message is spam or

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-04 Thread Robert Kisteleki
On 2022-04-03 07:18, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: I’ve not experienced this problem sending emails via IPv6 to gmail destinations from my personal domain. (delong.com <http://delong.com>) Likely this email will, in fact, get sent to GMAIL via IPv6. I do have good SPF and DKIM r

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 07:44:59PM -0500, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > I’m running into this with clients for whom we do web site work. > Mail not being delivered to Gmail accounts. No bounceback, not > being delayed, not marked as spam, just black-holed for no > discernible

opendkim (was: Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email)

2022-04-04 Thread Bjørn Mork
s are appreciated. I can always patch nullmailer. But the same problem can be triggerd by any client submitting an unquoted display-name with an apostrophe to sendmail. Possibly also other characters which are allowed in an atom. I do understand why most people just go with gmail... Bjørn

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
> On Apr 3, 2022, at 1:40 PM, na...@shankland.org wrote: > >> It appears that Bjørn Mork said: >>> Google has been trying to move away from Internet email for many years >>> now. Just let them. There is no way you can "fix" that problem on your >

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread John Levine
SuRPTLNnRsoLAQg2kqmQkvylagdeezZc >>> 4p+jQEQv5La2KbjzEIvW6iSGwwe4ltT9hu7h0H8U= >>> Received: (nullmailer pid 389787 invoked by uid 1000); >>> Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:16:48 - >>> From: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Mork?= >>> To: Randy Bush >>&g

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread Michael Thomas
+dqo0cSuRPTLNnRsoLAQg2kqmQkvylagdeezZc 4p+jQEQv5La2KbjzEIvW6iSGwwe4ltT9hu7h0H8U= Received: (nullmailer pid 389787 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:16:48 - From: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Mork?= To: Randy Bush Cc: John Levine , "North American Network Operators' Group" Subject: Re: Gmail (

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread Bjørn Mork
gdeezZc > 4p+jQEQv5La2KbjzEIvW6iSGwwe4ltT9hu7h0H8U= > Received: (nullmailer pid 389787 invoked by uid 1000); > Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:16:48 - > From: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Mork?= > To: Randy Bush > Cc: John Levine , > "North American Network Operators' Grou

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread nanog
On Apr 3, 2022, at 9:41 AM, John Levine wrote: > > It appears that Bjørn Mork said: >> Google has been trying to move away from Internet email for many years >> now. Just let them. There is no way you can "fix" that problem on your >> side. > > Don't b

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread Bjørn Mork
Randy Bush writes: > i try to keep a list of goog's ipv6 email space and don't deliver to it; > rather using ipv4 instead. unfortunately, goog does not cooperate with > dnswl.org, so this can not be automated. How about using their SPF records as automation input? Their MXes are inside those

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread Randy Bush
i try to keep a list of goog's ipv6 email space and don't deliver to it; rather using ipv4 instead. unfortunately, goog does not cooperate with dnswl.org, so this can not be automated. this is mildly damaging to the ipv6 religion, but i don't let that spoil my coffee. their lack of cooperation

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread John Levine
It appears that Bjørn Mork said: >Google has been trying to move away from Internet email for many years >now. Just let them. There is no way you can "fix" that problem on your >side. Don't be silly. Gmail has over a billion users and hosts mail for vast numbers of busines

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-03 Thread Bjørn Mork
away some of their legitimate email. Send a paper mail or phone them if necessary. That's pretty much all you can do. If those recipients continue to use gmail, then that's their decision and problem. I assume NANOG is informed about this now. Bjørn

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
I’ve not experienced this problem sending emails via IPv6 to gmail destinations from my personal domain. (delong.com <http://delong.com/>) Likely this email will, in fact, get sent to GMAIL via IPv6. I do have good SPF and DKIM records and signing and a reasonable DMARC policy set up.

Re: [nanog] Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Dan Mahoney (Gushi)
is not mentioned here: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?hl=en But nor are mailing lists/listservs. Most of the guidance on "lists" seems to be related to marketing lists (which I hate way more, but gmail seems to be quite forgiving of), vs discussion lists. Also, the error mes

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 4/2/22 8:01 PM, John Levine wrote: It appears that Michael Thomas said: ARC lets the recipient system look back and do what we might call retroactive filtering, using info about messages as they arrived at the previous forwarder. While it would be nice if lists did a better job of spam

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread John Levine
It appears that Michael Thomas said: >> ARC lets the recipient system look back and do what we might call >> retroactive filtering, using info about messages as they arrived at >> the previous forwarder. While it would be nice if lists did a better >> job of spam filtering, they don't, and ARC is

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 4/2/22 6:21 PM, John Levine wrote: It appears that Michael Thomas said: Google at least adds ARC headers in Gmail, and did the editing of RFC8617. ARC resolves into a previously unsolved problem: reputation. ... No, actually it doesn't, as has been repeatedly explained. ARC addreses

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 4/2/22 6:16 PM, John Levine wrote: It appears that Michael Thomas said: There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, amongst which: - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again - SPF - DKIM - DMARC Yup. Gmail ha

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email from poorly configured senders

2022-04-02 Thread John Levine
It appears that Niels Bakker said: >I also run my own mail server. I had to firewall off Google's MXes for >this exact reason: silent and not-so-silent email rejection when >offered over IPv6. I run my own mail server and have no trouble at all delivering mail to Gmail over IPv6.

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread John Levine
It appears that Michael Thomas said: >> Google at least adds ARC headers in Gmail, and did the editing of RFC8617. > >ARC resolves into a previously unsolved problem: reputation. ... No, actually it doesn't, as has been repeatedly explained. ARC addreses the problem that mail

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread John Levine
It appears that Michael Thomas said: >> There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, >> amongst which: >> >> - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again >> - SPF >> - DKIM >>

Re: [nanog] Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Dan Mahoney (Gushi)
On Sun, 3 Apr 2022, Jeroen Massar wrote: Hi Dan, Hope the rest of the world is treating you decently! There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, amongst which: - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again

Re: [nanog] Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Dan Mahoney (Gushi)
. There is no other conclusion possible than that Gmail is actively anti-email at this point. I'm pretty sure I receive more spam from them than I send to them, despite forwarding all emails for a few family members' domains. I too have encountered this. This comes up on mailop periodically

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 4/2/22 4:05 PM, John Curran wrote: On 2 Apr 2022, at 6:23 PM, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote: There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, amongst which: - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again   

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Michael Thomas
works at the large ESPs, hard to tell what they really care about and verify. Google at least adds ARC headers in Gmail, and did the editing of RFC8617. ARC resolves into a previously unsolved problem: reputation. You could do reputation with plain old DKIM too, so I don't see why changing the

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread John Curran
On 2 Apr 2022, at 6:23 PM, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote: > There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, > amongst which: > > - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS) > -

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Jeroen Massar via NANOG
t; Seriously spend zero time on ARC. It doesn't work as advertised... [snip, see > below] Unless one works at the large ESPs, hard to tell what they really care about and verify. Google at least adds ARC headers in Gmail, and did the editing of RFC8617. MS seems to do something with it: htt

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 4/2/22 3:23 PM, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote: Hi Dan, Hope the rest of the world is treating you decently! There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, amongst which: - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Niels Bakker
week) had to disable ipv6 outbound on one of $dayjob's MX servers, because Gmail, who hosts nanog.org, was rejecting our mail due to "our domain's very low reputation". (In this parlance, "Very Low" is an actual indicative metric.) Dayjob is the people who make

Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Jeroen Massar via NANOG
Hi Dan, Hope the rest of the world is treating you decently! There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, amongst which: - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS) - SPF -

Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email

2022-04-02 Thread Dan Mahoney (Gushi)
I've been seeing a long thread about why ipv6 adoption isn't there yet. This is half a "paging someone with clue" post and half a "...really, guys?" Picard-facepalm post. I just (earlier this week) had to disable ipv6 outbound on one of $dayjob's MX servers, because Gmail,

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-05 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 17:54, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > Again, these are not a user messages or regular list traffic, they're > admin/moderator messages addressed to an admin of a list. > > So, to clarify the OP issues here — you're using Gmail on your domain > (aka G Su

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-05 Thread Bjørn Mork
applying statistics on empirical data. The problem is that smoothing the edges might throw away mail that the recipient care about, just because most other users didn't. Small players risk being blocked on the sole reason that they are too small to make any measurable number of gmail users want their mail. Bjørn

RE: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Wednesday, 4 December, 2019 23:24, b...@theworld.com wrote: >But that's ok, the new masters of this universe will just charge both >ends for each and every email (perhaps a few included free with your >Hulu or Netflix subscription) and old timers will talk about how great >it was back in the

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread bzs
25 years or so from now when the internet is basically a big CATV-like service someone will write a book about how "SPAM Ate The Internet". And a few other things, among them: Phase II: Ham Eats The Internet. Now that every marcom, billing, etc dept and their pet dog has figured out they can

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread George Michaelson
. Understandable, faking flows into your own mail must be a big problem for big mail hosters, mainly doing mail for other people. Oddly, no other enterprise I deal with does this: Only google tags google staffers as spam, when they interact in GMail and G/Suite. It would help enormously if google

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
so people > who might want to help can do so. This presumes that the issue is related to my static setup, but it's not. Last time around, several people contacted me offlist, and didn't find any issues with my setup either. Plus, as mentioned, I myself have never had any major issues with my mail b

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
ges or regular list traffic, they're > admin/moderator messages addressed to an admin of a list. So, to clarify the OP issues here — you're using Gmail on your domain (aka G Suite), and are also a Mailman administrator (on same or different domain?), and are unable to properly use Mailmain

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 17:39, John R. Levine wrote: > > Or maybe users are tired of the useless monthly messages and report them > as spam. > Again, these are not a user messages or regular list traffic, they're admin/moderator messages addressed to an admin of a list. Your point about the

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread John R. Levine
Someone up-thread noted that my personal domain is hosted on google groups. I've noticed in the past that the behaviour of gmail.com can be very different from the behaviour of a paid mail domain like mine... Google says that every user's spam filtering is different. It's not just free vs.

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 16:38, John R. Levine wrote: > > Though I agree that Gmail spam filtering is top grade, or close to be so, > > it still sends to spam a statistically significant number of emails from > > IETF and ICANN mailing lists I'm subscribed to. It depends as

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread John R. Levine
Though I agree that Gmail spam filtering is top grade, or close to be so, it still sends to spam a statistically significant number of emails from IETF and ICANN mailing lists I'm subscribed to. It depends as well on which account I should receive those emails. Yes, that's mostly the DMARC

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, Though I agree that Gmail spam filtering is top grade, or close to be so, it still sends to spam a statistically significant number of emails from IETF and ICANN mailing lists I'm subscribed to. It depends as well on which account I should receive those emails. While I understand

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Google still rejects email from my own domain name as outlined in a >prior message on this list a month or two ago: Google accepts my mail just fine, including from my mailing lists. Their goal is to make their users happy by accepting the mail the users want and not the

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
handled by Gmail). Google still "officially" supports incoming SMTP, but they've otherwise made it non-interoperable with a whole bunch of the operators. Google still rejects email from my own domain name as outlined in a prior message on this list a month or two ago: * https://mailman

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-03 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 04/12/2019 05:04, Matthew Pounsett wrote: Cute way to promote Google Groups over Mailman.  Gotta give 'em credit for being creative :-) -Hank For some reason Gmail has started blocking mailman administrative emails to someone who's an admin on a list I host.  Their SMTP 552 error

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-03 Thread Ross Tajvar
You might have better luck emailing the mailops list. On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 10:06 PM Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > For some reason Gmail has started blocking mailman administrative emails > to someone who's an admin on a list I host. Their SMTP 552 error message > poin

Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-03 Thread Matthew Pounsett
For some reason Gmail has started blocking mailman administrative emails to someone who's an admin on a list I host. Their SMTP 552 error message points to <https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BlockedMessage>, which implies the "problem" is the URLs in the email, but is othe

Google/GMail contact

2019-10-30 Thread Eric Dugas
Looking for a Google/GMail contact, off-list. Eric

Re: Any Gmail Admins on here?

2018-10-27 Thread Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG
Expired certificate, confirmation email delivered in SPAM. I agree that it looks phishy even if it's probably not. When you read the email In gmail, you can click on the 3 little dots, which will expand a menu and then on "Show original" You should see 3 important email

Re: Any Gmail Admins on here?

2018-10-27 Thread Jeremy Parr
Not only that, but I just tried signing up, and the confirmation email was marked as spam by GMail. Does not inspire confidence. On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 1:26 PM Harald Koch wrote: > chilli.nosignal.org has an SSL certificate that expired in *July*. > > -- > Harald > > >

Re: Any Gmail Admins on here?

2018-10-25 Thread Kendrick Eastes
/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ---

Re: Any Gmail Admins on here?

2018-10-25 Thread Andreas Ott
://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

Re: Any Gmail Admins on here?

2018-10-25 Thread Harald Koch
t; > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Art Plato" > *To: *"nanog" > *Sent: *Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:39:36 AM > *Subject: *Any Gmail Admins on here? > > I apologize for putting this out

Re: Any Gmail Admins on here?

2018-10-25 Thread Mike Hammett
https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Art Plato" To: "nanog" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:39:36 AM

Any Gmail Admins on here?

2018-10-25 Thread Plato, Art
I apologize for putting this out in this forum but I have attempted to reach Google/Gmail for several weeks with no response. Their servers have flagged my domain with bad reputation even thought he stats say no spam has been sent from my domain for the past several months that I can see

Gmail admin

2018-07-16 Thread Brian
Is there a gmail admin that can contact me offlist? Thanks much.

Gmail security contact off list

2018-06-19 Thread Eric Germann
Can someone from Gmail security contact me off list. Pardon the interruption EKG

Re: Google / GMail Geolocation

2018-03-16 Thread Harry Reeder
Yes, I believe I have tried that form at some point in the past but nothing came of it last time - I'll submit it for this instance as well. On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 3:56 PM Yury Shefer wrote: > Have you tried to contact G through the following form? >

Re: Google / GMail Geolocation

2018-03-15 Thread Yury Shefer
Have you tried to contact G through the following form? https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 4:35 AM, Harry Reeder wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Wondering if anyone has a contact at Google who can help - I've a customer > who's attempted to

Google / GMail Geolocation

2018-03-15 Thread Harry Reeder
Hi Folks, Wondering if anyone has a contact at Google who can help - I've a customer who's attempted to log in from one of our IPs (which comes from one of Cogent's /16 blocks) however they get an automated email response from Google saying that they're logging in from Hong Kong, and the login

gmail contact?

2017-02-14 Thread Russ White
Y'all -- Who would I talk to about a gmail server that's apparently on one of the various sorbs lists? Ping me on my personal email -- r...@riw.us. :-) Russ

Gmail or GAFYD SREs on the list?

2017-02-14 Thread Brad Knowles
Folks, Do we have any SREs from the Gmail or Google Apps For Your Domain teams on the list? I’m helping to support some domains related to the Network Time Foundation and NTP.org, and we’re having some problems with IPv6 connectivity to them. Thanks! -- Brad Knowles <b...@shub-internet.

Re: Gmail failure recently?

2016-11-15 Thread Marco Paesani
Hi Hank, I'm user of Gmail with this account but I don't see any issue, the service is normal from my point of view. Kind regards, Marco Paesani Skype: mpaesani Mobile: +39 348 6019349 Success depends on the right choice ! Email: ma...@paesani.it 2016-11-15 7:35 GMT+01:00 Hank Nussbacher &l

Gmail failure recently?

2016-11-14 Thread Hank Nussbacher
experienced some sort of Gmail failure in the past 8 hours. Thanks, Hank

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-28 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 11:24 AM, wrote: > > And apparently you need to know the secret handshake to get on. I was able to sign-up yesterday, I even saw John's mail about your insecure error. I don't know why I didn't sign up before, my work ITIL is Messaging Manager.

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-27 Thread Matt Palmer
's got about as odd > a mix of people as nanog, ranging from people with single user linux > machines to people who run some of the largest mail systems in > the world, including Gmail: > > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop I know they're mailops, an

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-27 Thread Nate Metheny
Thanks for all the feedback related and unrelated to the problem. I'm aware of many available troubleshooting tools and considered this one of them, but I've been shown that this, albeit appropriate, forum, was not a good choice to solicit technical assistance. I consider the matter closed. --

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:34:36 -, Mel Beckman said: > But mailop doesn't have the same odd mix of people as nanog. For example, I'm > not on mailop. :) And apparently you need to know the secret handshake to get on. After Chrome complained the SSL cert on the subscription page had expired 6

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-27 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, > I was working within the limits of what I had available. Google offer several trouble shooting tools for their service too, you might want to look at their toolbox eg https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/messageheader/ (part of their 'why is my email slow to deliver?' process) alan

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-27 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, > administrator reaching out to peers for assistance with a particular > problem that is clearly network related is inappropriate for a network clearly network related? people have an interesting expectation of email - expecting instant delivery. you might check their level of

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-27 Thread Mel Beckman
's the subscription page for mailop. It's got about as odd a mix of people as nanog, ranging from people with single user linux machines to people who run some of the largest mail systems in the world, including Gmail: https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop R's, John

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-26 Thread Ken Chase
Im thankful Nate posted. Gmail isnt a small system that affects only a small percentage of people worldwide, and therefore a perfect candidate for a mail- specific list that many (and many nanoggers like me) arent part of, for lack of additional bandwidth in life. However, gmail not working

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-26 Thread John Levine
machines to people who run some of the largest mail systems in the world, including Gmail: https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop R's, John

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-26 Thread Nate Metheny
I was working within the limits of what I had available. I apologize if people on the list consider a network and systems administrator reaching out to peers for assistance with a particular problem that is clearly network related is inappropriate for a network operations group list that may or

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-26 Thread Mark Foster
Hi Mel, There's another mailing list called 'mailop' which is probably more appropriate for email related problems, than NANOG. And in response to Nate: I was in contact with Google and after some convincing and detailed header information, they acknowledged that they are having internal MX

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-26 Thread Mel Beckman
John, With all due respect, it's S.O.P. for Nanogen to ask the list if anyone else is experiencing a particular problem with some carrier or another. So Nate's question is totally appropriate for this list. I know I've solved several problems by airing them here and getting insight from other

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-26 Thread Nate Metheny
​​Thanks, John. I was in contact with Google and after some convincing and detailed header information, they acknowledged that they are having internal MX issues and assure me that they will deal with the issue promptly. Initially they did not even acknowledge that there was a problem, so it

Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-26 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Help (and hi)! > >I work in higher education and we've been experiencing problems with Google >delaying or queuing email for delivery to our domain. This is a question for Google, not for nanog. Only

Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-26 Thread Nate Metheny
le's network. Are other people having this same problem? I've tested delivery to my network from many outside sources and all SMTP requests go through without delay; this issue seems be exclusive to Google-hosted and Gmail accounts and domains. -- Nate ​ <natemeth...@gmail.com>n...@dopedesign.com

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Charles Mills
saw it down as well. came back for me in < 5 minutes. On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Web interface is broken, downdetector sure sees activity. This attempt is > from mobile. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 >

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Matt Freitag
All good in Houghton, MI [image: Inline image 1] Matt Freitag Network Engineer I Information Technology Michigan Technological University (906) 487-3696 <%28906%29%20487-3696> https://www.mtu.edu/ https://www.it.mtu.edu/ On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Josh Luthman
gt; > > Josh, > > > > No, that downdetector.com page is specifically for gmail. > > > > -mel > > Unsure about others, but I certainly trust downdetector > and others versus checking out Google's very own service > status dashboard (https://www.google.com/

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Spencer Ryan
(d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: > Sorry, I misread your post. > > Ironically, I can reach Gmail through Level3, but not through Frontier or > AT So this may be a global routing issue. > >

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread J. Oquendo
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016, Mel Beckman wrote: > Josh, > > No, that downdetector.com page is specifically for gmail. > > -mel Unsure about others, but I certainly trust downdetector and others versus checking out Google's very own service status dashboard (https://www.google.com/a

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Mel Beckman
Sorry, I misread your post. Ironically, I can reach Gmail through Level3, but not through Frontier or AT So this may be a global routing issue. -mel On Jul 5, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: I know. Tha

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I know. That's what I'm saying. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: > Josh, > > No, that downdetector.com page is specifically for gmail. > >

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Mel Beckman
Josh, No, that downdetector.com page is specifically for gmail. -mel > On Jul 5, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > That's Google Apps. Not Gmail. As per the subject, it's Gmail. > > http://downdetector.com/status/gmail > &g

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I believe that only checks for an HTTP response, which would have responded successfully. Not relevant to the issue. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:18 AM, John Peach wrote: >

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Josh Luthman
That's Google Apps. Not Gmail. As per the subject, it's Gmail. http://downdetector.com/status/gmail Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Steven Miano <mian...@gmail.com> wrote: > Noth

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread John Peach
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/gmail.com On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 10:49:31 -0400 Josh Luthman wrote: > Web interface is broken, downdetector sure sees activity. This > attempt is from mobile. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Tue 2016-Jul-05 10:53:34 -0400, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: Looks like it's back up for both my personal and work accounts (issue limited to the web interface). 851 reports and climbing every time I refresh @ http://downdetector.com/status/gmail No issue

Re: Gmail down

2016-07-05 Thread Steven Miano
accounts (issue > limited to the web interface). > > 851 reports and climbing every time I refresh @ > http://downdetector.com/status/gmail > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > &g

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