RE: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Ian Mock
to normal after a few hours. Ian Mock From: NANOG [nanog-boun...@nanog.org] on behalf of Mark Tinka [mark.ti...@seacom.mu] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:23 AM To: Christopher Morrow Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Google Captcha on web searches On 11/Nov

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Nov/15 17:09, Christopher Morrow wrote: > 'smart' ... I can't imagine that the DNS server you use would matter > to Google, from a 'send to captcha' perspective. I CAN imagine that > the DNS server you use could lie to you about the right RR to send > back, and then push you through some

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 11/Nov/15 17:09, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >> 'smart' ... I can't imagine that the DNS server you use would matter >> to Google, from a 'send to captcha' perspective. I CAN imagine that >> the DNS server you use

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 11/Nov/15 18:03, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >> it's in wikipedia, so ... someone did :) But yea, don't use dns >> servers that lie to you UNLESS you understand very well what that lie >> is going to be and under

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Nov/15 18:15, Christopher Morrow wrote: > Yes, people also jump out of perfectly good airplanes... we can't fix > all the things :( > my point really is you assume some risk when you do odd things with > basic plumbing on the internet, if you don't actually know what you > are doing

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 11/Nov/15 01:09, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> Yeah I probably should worded that differently not 'open dns services', >> sorry about that. > > I think those types of DNS services are so-called "Smart

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Chris Murray wrote: > The "popular open dns services" you refer to appear to be Proxy/VPN > services that also provide DNS to get around region blocking. These > services proxy and/or NAT users behind a single IP address to make it > look like

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Nov/15 18:03, Christopher Morrow wrote: > it's in wikipedia, so ... someone did :) But yea, don't use dns > servers that lie to you UNLESS you understand very well what that lie > is going to be and under what conditions you'll get the lie. Well, there is a ton of them offering pay-for

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Josh Luthman
It's done per /32 I believe. Do you have a lot of NATed users? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 10, 2015 12:29 PM, "Joseph Jenkins" <j...@breathe-underwater.com> wrote: > We started getting a Google

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Nikolay Shopik
You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least this is what I've seen. On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote: > We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does > anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Tue 2015-Nov-10 09:28:09 -0800, Joseph Jenkins <j...@breathe-underwater.com> wrote: We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure out where the traffic is coming from on m

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Joseph Jenkins
you have a lot of NATed users? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Nov 10, 2015 12:29 PM, "Joseph Jenkins" <j...@breathe-underwater.com > <mailto:j...@breathe-underwater.c

Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Joseph Jenkins
We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure out where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it is going to so that I can track down the users? Thanks, Joe Jenkins

RE: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Nicholas Warren
vember 10, 2015 11:28 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Google Captcha on web searches > > We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. > Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and > figure out where the traffic is coming from

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Nikolay Shopik <sho...@inblock.ru> wrote: > You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least > this is what I've seen. > pardon, what? > On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote: >> We started getting a Google Capt

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Nikolay Shopik
10, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Nikolay Shopik <sho...@inblock.ru> wrote: >> You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least >> this is what I've seen. >> > > pardon, what? > >> On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote: >>> We st

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Chris Murray
t;> this is what I've seen. >>> >> >> pardon, what? >> >>> On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote: >>>> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. >>>> Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I ca

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Nov/15 01:09, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Yeah I probably should worded that differently not 'open dns services', > sorry about that. I think those types of DNS services are so-called "Smart DNS". Mark.

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Nikolay Shopik
PM, Nikolay Shopik <sho...@inblock.ru> wrote: >>>> You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least >>>> this is what I've seen. >>>> >>> >>> pardon, what? >>> >>>> On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wro