Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Michael Smith
On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet http://www.seattleix.net/agg.htm

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On 01/24/2014 09:08 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet In the interview they are saying that if Google is down, lots of people don't have

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet It's just been pointed out to me that, even though Marketplace just posted the link to that piece, the dateline is from August. My apologies for not

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Stefan Neufeind na...@stefan-neufeind.de wrote: In the interview they are saying that if Google is down, lots of people don't have DNS anymore. So that accounts for an even larger drop than just no Youtube. Hmm - why would people use those resolvers, besides

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Stefan Neufeind na...@stefan-neufeind.de On 01/24/2014 09:08 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Shrdlu
On 1/24/2014 12:31 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Jay Ashworthj...@baylink.com http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet It's just been pointed out to me that, even though Marketplace just posted the link to that piece, the

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:22:58 +0100, Stefan Neufeind said: just no Youtube. Hmm - why would people use those resolvers, besides being lazy in configuring a proper resolver-address. A lot of people make value judgements on the relative likelyhood of finding evil in DNS packets coming from

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Gabriel Blanchard
On 14-01-24 03:40 PM, Shrdlu wrote: On 1/24/2014 12:31 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Jay Ashworthj...@baylink.com http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet It's just been pointed out to me that, even though Marketplace just

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Shrdlu shr...@deaddrop.org You sure? I think that there is an actual outage, unrelated to the article you'd posted. http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/24/gmail-glitch-is-causing-thousands-of-emails-to-be-sent-to-one-mans-hotmail-account/ There was an outage

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On 01/24/2014 09:46 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:22:58 +0100, Stefan Neufeind said: just no Youtube. Hmm - why would people use those resolvers, besides being lazy in configuring a proper resolver-address. A lot of people make value judgements on the relative

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Stefan Neufeind na...@stefan-neufeind.de If it's just some DNS your provider hands out, I agree it's not much better as well. (But you might possibly assume your provider has less interst to spy on all your emails, your dns-queries and the like.) You might

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Scott Howard
There was a lot of discussion about this figure back in August when the relevant outage occurred. From memory, a large percentage of the traffic drop was from other sites breaking as a result of Google not being available. ie, a site completely unrelated to Google, potentially being served by a

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Stefan Neufeind na...@stefan-neufeind.de wrote: interst to spy on all your emails, your dns-queries and the like.) FUD much? have you read the public-dns ToS and privacy statements? if you haven't you might want to:

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Scott Howard sc...@doc.net.au A non-trivial percentage of the Internet is in some way or other dependent on things like Google Analytics/maps/etc, Facebook likes, Twitter recent tweets, etc, such that if any of those services are not available the site

Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?

2014-01-24 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Jan 25, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: I wonder what percentage of large website operators whose site designs have such external dependencies have had it occur to them to include those external services in their monitoring systems? This presupposes that they