Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I think the key difference here is that I really just wanted HE to treat my routes no differently no matter how they learned them. I wanted them to apply normal BGP routing rules to them.. that is, pick the path with the shortest AS path. >From a strictly technical basis, its silly to prefer a

RE: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Tony Wicks
> > I do understand the reasoning behind preferring customer routes. > However in the case where a customer of a customer also connects to > you directly via peering doesn't it make sense to prefer the direct > connection? or at least not prefer the customer learned routes. So from my

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Randy Bush
most networks prefer customers over peers. a few networks don't, some large. if they changed, customers would scream at them about the newly overloaded customer circuit. we are not required to like this :) randy

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Lukas Tribus
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 at 16:23, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > > I do understand the reasoning behind preferring customer routes. > However in the case where a customer of a customer also > connects to you directly via peering doesn't it make sense to prefer > the direct connection? or

RE: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Brian Turnbow via NANOG
> Google has let you down, 6730 (sunrise) is not 6939 (HE) ;) > Oops I should check thing better at the end of the day .. My bad

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Lukas Tribus
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 at 17:19, Brian Turnbow via NANOG wrote: > > Hi, > > >I do understand the reasoning behind preferring customer routes. However > >in the case where a customer of a customer also connects to you directly via > >peering doesn't it make sense to prefer the direct connection?

RE: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Brian Turnbow via NANOG
Hi, >I do understand the reasoning behind preferring customer routes.   However in >the case where a customer of a customer also connects to you directly via >peering doesn't it make sense to prefer the direct connection?  or at >least >not prefer the customer learned routes. Business not

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Heasley
t;> From: NANOG On Behalf Of Rubens >>> Kuhl >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:36 PM >>> To: Nanog >>> Subject: HE.net and BGP Communities >>> >>> The last mention I found on NANOG about HE.net and BGP communities for >>> traffic engineering is from April 2021 and said they provided none. >>> >>> Is that still the case a year later ? >>> >>> >>> Rubens >>>

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 9:39 PM Ryan Hamel >> wrote: >> >>> Yes. >>> >>> Ryan >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: NANOG On Behalf Of >>> Rubens Kuhl >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:36 PM &g

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Rafael Possamai
>I wish they'd add one more that turns off their "prefer routes learned from a >customer" rule. I'm having to split my blocks in >half and announce them >that way to get them to send my traffic directly to me through our IX peering >session as opposed to >one of my transit providers. >I'd

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Jared Mauch
Jul 24, 2022 at 9:39 PM Ryan Hamel >>> wrote: >>> Yes. >>> >>> Ryan >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: NANOG On Behalf Of Rubens >>> Kuhl >>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:36 PM >>> To: Nanog >

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
t; -Original Message- >> From: NANOG On Behalf Of >> Rubens Kuhl >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:36 PM >> To: Nanog >> Subject: HE.net and BGP Communities >> >> The last mention I found on NANOG about HE.net and BGP communities for >> traffi

Re: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-24 Thread Siyuan Miao
They do have BGP communities ... but for black-hole only :-( On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 9:39 PM Ryan Hamel wrote: > Yes. > > Ryan > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG On Behalf Of > Rubens Kuhl > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:36 PM > To: Nanog > Subje

RE: HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-24 Thread Ryan Hamel
Yes. Ryan -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:36 PM To: Nanog Subject: HE.net and BGP Communities The last mention I found on NANOG about HE.net and BGP communities for traffic engineering is from April 2021 and said they provided

HE.net and BGP Communities

2022-07-24 Thread Rubens Kuhl
The last mention I found on NANOG about HE.net and BGP communities for traffic engineering is from April 2021 and said they provided none. Is that still the case a year later ? Rubens