Re: Follow up to "has virtualization become obsolete in 5G"?

Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote on 16/01/2021 11:34: The term NFV is a bit of a stretch for what is really network-function-containerization. Like ~ everything else relating to computers, network management and service provisioning functionality boils down to executing CPU instructions on

Re: Follow up to "has virtualization become obsolete in 5G"?

t mentions that virtualization is now obsolete. NFV > solutions are moving to VM based deployments as a stop-gap and for the > future, towards micro-services built in containers. > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 6:38 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale > wrote: > >> Hello folks,

Re: Follow up to "has virtualization become obsolete in 5G"?

-Victor Depasquale wrote: > Hello folks, > > Last year, I posted to this list and asked "has virtualization become > obsolete in 5G"? > > A similar opinion seems to be gaining ground > <https://www.telecomtvperspectives.com/series/vmware/the-countdown-to-5g

Follow up to "has virtualization become obsolete in 5G"?

Hello folks, Last year, I posted to this list and asked "has virtualization become obsolete in 5G"? A similar opinion seems to be gaining ground <https://www.telecomtvperspectives.com/series/vmware/the-countdown-to-5g-and-cloud-native/> .: "Once the darling of the telecoms

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 12/Aug/20 19:10, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Fair enough, but you actually haven't answered my question about why you > think that VNFs such as vTMS can not be implemented in a horizontal scaling > model? > In my opinion any NF virtual or physical can be horizontally scaled.

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> From: Mark Tinka > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:45 PM > > On 11/Aug/20 17:55, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > > > Can you elaborate? > > Apart from licensing scheme what stops one from redirecting traffic to > > one vTMS instance per say each transit link or per destination /24 > >

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 12/Aug/20 10:50, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > This point plays straight up the path of the argument I recounted. > > Yes, I agree that there's a relational problem inherent to the > situation I described. > Wouldn't any wise employer playing the relationship game ensure that > he's

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > Moreover, an employer doesn't have to give in to the whims of a > conceited employee; and most do not. > This point plays straight up the path of the argument I recounted. Yes, I agree that there's a relational problem inherent to the situation I described. Wouldn't any wise employer playing

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 12/Aug/20 09:49, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > Two more bits' worth ... > > About a year ago, during a discussion with a local network operator's CTO, > I was told that dependency on the operator's employees > for production of software gave the employees too much leverage over > their

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Two more bits' worth ... About a year ago, during a discussion with a local network operator's CTO, I was told that dependency on the operator's employees for production of software gave the employees too much leverage over their employer (the operator, here). Perhaps industrial standardization

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 11/Aug/20 17:55, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Can you elaborate? > Apart from licensing scheme what stops one from redirecting traffic to one > vTMS instance per say each transit link or per destination /24 (i.e. > horizontal scaling)? (vTMS is not stateful or is it?) In an

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> From: Mark Tinka > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 2:19 PM > > On 10/Aug/20 15:15, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > > > Mark, > > 1) first you have your edge - lots of small instances that are meant > > to be horizontally scaled (not vertically- i.e. not 40's/100's of Gbps > > pushed via

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 10/Aug/20 15:15, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Mark, > 1) first you have your edge - lots of small instances that are meant to be > horizontally scaled (not vertically- i.e. not 40's/100's of Gbps pushed via > single Intel CPU) > - that's your NFVI. > - could be compute host

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> From: Mark Tinka > Cc: adamv0...@netconsultings.com; North American Network Operators' > > > On 6/Aug/20 15:43, Shane Ronan wrote: > > > Yes they are for 5G core. > > Right, but for legacy operators, or new entrants? > > If you know where we can find some info about deployment and >

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

And for other stuff as well. adam From: Shane Ronan Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 2:43 PM To: Mark Tinka Cc: adamv0...@netconsultings.com; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Yes they are for 5G core. On Wed, Aug 5

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 07:29:49 +0200, Mark Tinka said: > On 6/Aug/20 21:05, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > Isn't this just, really: > > 1) some network gear with SDN bits that live on the next-rack over > > servers/kubes > > 2) services (microservices!) that do the SDN functions AND NFV > >

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On 7/Aug/20 14:40, sro...@ronan-online.com wrote: > I can promise 100% that in LARGE US 5G carriers this is exactly what > is happening. Virtual CU’s and DU’s, running on traditional > virtualization platforms and in containers. > > An entire multi-vendor containerized 5G which replaces the 4G

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

I can promise 100% that in LARGE US 5G carriers this is exactly what is happening. Virtual CU’s and DU’s, running on traditional virtualization platforms and in containers. An entire multi-vendor containerized 5G which replaces the 4G EPC is also in testing, and close to production deployment.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 7/Aug/20 09:35, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > 5G introduced a number of functional units (RU, DU and CU) in the > radio access network and disaggregation is flexible. Service > intelligence doesn't need to come from the core; it may be far out in > the edge. At the RU, there is

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 7/Aug/20 09:35, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > 5G introduced a number of functional units (RU, DU and CU) in the > radio access network and disaggregation is flexible. Service > intelligence doesn't need to come from the core; it may be far out in > the edge. At the RU, there is

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > Well, I doubt the radio has any service intelligence. It's just a conduit. > Depending on why two devices on the same radio have to communicate, a > cleverer system deep in the core would need to process that before handing > it back to the radio network. > 5G introduced a number of functional

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 6/Aug/20 21:05, Christopher Morrow wrote: > Isn't this just, really: > 1) some network gear with SDN bits that live on the next-rack over > servers/kubes > 2) services (microservices!) that do the SDN functions AND NFV > functions AND billing > (extending IMS to the edge etc) I

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:52 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > On 6/Aug/20 17:43, Mel Beckman wrote: > > > I don’t think you’re going to move those volumes with Intel X86 chips. > > For example, AT’s Open Compute Project whitebox architecture is > > based on Broadcom Jericho2 processors, with aggregate

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 6/Aug/20 17:43, Mel Beckman wrote: > I don’t think you’re going to move those volumes with Intel X86 chips. > For example, AT’s Open Compute Project whitebox architecture is > based on Broadcom Jericho2 processors, with aggregate on-chip > throughput of 9.6 Tbps, and which support 24 ports

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Mark, I don’t think you’re going to move those volumes with Intel X86 chips. For example, AT’s Open Compute Project whitebox architecture is based on Broadcom Jericho2 processors, with aggregate on-chip throughput of 9.6 Tbps, and which support 24 ports at 400 Gbps each. This is where AT’s 5G

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 6/Aug/20 15:43, Shane Ronan wrote: > Yes they are for 5G core. Right, but for legacy operators, or new entrants? If you know where we can find some info about deployment and experiences, that would be very interesting to read. We've all been struggling to make Intel CPU's shift 10's,

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Yes they are for 5G core. On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 11:28 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 5/Aug/20 17:07, Shane Ronan wrote: > > > I think you'd be surprised how much of the 5G Core is containerized > > for both the data and control planes in the next generations providers > > are currently deploying.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 18:05, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Yes that's exactly it. > Instead of a VDOM (or whatever is your FW vendor slicing mechanism) give each > customer a FW "instance" (VM/Containerized -if there's such a thing already) > and instantiate it on demand and with resources

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 5/Aug/20 18:39, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > > Umm, I don't think so. > At least that's not the impression I got from the CNCF, Intel and Red Hat. > They seem to be striving for K8s without the use of VM hypervisors. Much to learn :-). Mark.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 5/Aug/20 18:34, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > > Release 16 is just out and if it has delivered the 5G vision,  > latency between devices connected over the same radio interface  > (which I take to mean the same gNB), > is now < 1 ms. > Isn't that a good improvement? Well, I doubt the

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > What I meant that as we've been deploying NFV as a VM, cloud-native means we take that VM and containerize it further. Umm, I don't think so. At least that's not the impression I got from the CNCF, Intel and Red Hat. They seem to be striving for K8s without the use of VM hypervisors.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > And while the practical improvement in radio latency between 4G and 5G is in the low single digits, how does that make V2X any more interesting with 5G than it currently is with 4G? Release 16 is just out and if it has delivered the 5G vision, latency between devices connected over the

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 5/Aug/20 17:07, Shane Ronan wrote: > I think you'd be surprised how much of the 5G Core is containerized > for both the data and control planes in the next generations providers > are currently deploying. It's what I expect for new entrants that don't want to deal with traditional vendors.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

I think you'd be surprised how much of the 5G Core is containerized for both the data and control planes in the next generations providers are currently deploying. On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 11:02 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 5/Aug/20 16:15, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > > I was actually

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 5/Aug/20 16:15, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > I was actually talking about routing on the host and virtual > control-plane and virtualized data-plane. > > Currently we either have a VM combining both or a separate VM for > each. Alternatively we can have a container for the

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

development and streamlining necessary. adam From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:05 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? On 4/Aug/20 17:38, adamv0...@netconsultings.com <mailto:adamv0...@netconsultings.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 17:45, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Not sure what you mean NFV is NFV, > > From NFV perspective cRDP is no different than vMX -it’s just a > virtualized router function nothing special… > What I meant that as we've been deploying NFV as a VM, cloud-native means we take

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 17:38, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Wondering whether the industry will consider containerised data-plane > in addition to control-plane (like cRDP). > > Having just control-plane and then hacking to kernel for doing the > data-plane bit is …well not as straight forward as

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 17:37, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > I think we all do - except technology is not there yet. Just imagine > if over a single piece of fiber you will get infinite bandwidth > delivered over unlimited modulation frequency spectrum  ...  > > IMHO till real true optical switching is a

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 17:37, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > > V2X, no? Again, what's the actual use-case? I've got a 4G router in my car, to which it connects via wi-fi. I can use Google Maps, I can stream music if I'm bored with commercial radio, I can download updates for the car and I can

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

; From: NANOG On Behalf >> Of Etienne-Victor Depasquale >> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 7:09 PM >> To: Robert Raszuk >> Cc: NANOG >> Subject: Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? >> >> >> >> Clearly to virtualize operating systems as

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> Mark Tinka > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:54 PM > > On 4/Aug/20 16:46, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > > > > How about hardware slicing support? such as switch, server and router > > slicing? is this supported/desirable? > > So you mean dump the VLAN model and give each service its own switch? >

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Router/switch slicing is supported but not really used much adam From: NANOG On Behalf Of Djamel Sadok Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:47 PM To: Etienne-Victor Depasquale Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? How about hardware slicing support

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

-plane VM or potentially container. > > > > adam > > > > *From:* NANOG *On > Behalf Of *Etienne-Victor Depasquale > *Sent:* Saturday, August 1, 2020 7:09 PM > *To:* Robert Raszuk > *Cc:* NANOG > *Subject:* Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? > &

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

ubject: Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? On 1/Aug/20 18:23, Robert Raszuk wrote: Virtualization is not becoming obsolete ... quite reverse in fact in all types of deployments I can see around. The point is that VM provides hardware virtualization while kubernetes with cont

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > PS. All of the current attempts to turn IP statistical multiplexing into > network slicing or deterministic networks are far from scale or practical > deployments (IMO). > Wow, that's quite a statement (I'm not disparaging, just surprised). Etienne On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:37 PM Robert

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

. adam From: NANOG On Behalf Of Etienne-Victor Depasquale Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 7:09 PM To: Robert Raszuk Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Clearly to virtualize operating systems as long as your level of virtualization mainly in terms of security

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > So not sure what applications are driving the demand for "greater QoS" > on 5G networks, in real terms. > Mark, V2X, no? Otherwise, I'm perfectly in agreement with what you've just written. Etienne On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:02 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 4/Aug/20 16:56, Etienne-Victor

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> I doubt we want to move away from those concepts. I think we all do - except technology is not there yet. Just imagine if over a single piece of fiber you will get infinite bandwidth delivered over unlimited modulation frequency spectrum ... IMHO till real true optical switching is a

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 17:00, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > I mean virtualization of the hardware in terms of running different > router/switch/server instances/VMs/ on the same platform. Is this > desirable? So you mean like multiple VM's, on the same server, each representing an NFV-based

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 16:56, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > The survey I pointed to suggests that hard slicing is the least > preferred option among survey respondents. That's because the very nature of DWDM, Ethernet, IP, MPLS and VM's is all about re-using the same infrastructure over and over

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

I mean virtualization of the hardware in terms of running different router/switch/server instances/VMs/ on the same platform. Is this desirable? On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:53 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 4/Aug/20 16:46, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > > > > How about hardware slicing support? such as

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

The survey I pointed to suggests that hard slicing is the least preferred option among survey respondents. Etienne On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:53 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 4/Aug/20 16:46, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > > > > How about hardware slicing support? such as switch, server and router > >

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:36 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > > I think that it's validation of QoS that really matters now. note that it's qos at many layers in the stack as well: 1) your application 'qos' on the machine(s) on which it runs 2) your application's traffic qos on the

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 16:46, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > How about hardware slicing support? such as switch, server and router > slicing? is this supported/desirable? So you mean dump the VLAN model and give each service its own switch? Or do you mean use one server but give each service its own VM? Or

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

How about hardware slicing support? such as switch, server and router slicing? is this supported/desirable? Djamel On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:37 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > I think that it's validation of QoS that really matters now. > > If I were to base on this recent video from

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 16:35, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > I think that it's validation of QoS that really matters now. > > If I were to base on this recent video from Keysight > >  (warning: > requires

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

I think that it's validation of QoS that really matters now. If I were to base on this recent video from Keysight (warning: requires registration), then it seems that there's a lot of emphasis on

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Containerization and k8s aren't so much a shift away from virtualization (horizontally), but a shift up from virtualization (vertically). It is a broader theme than 5G - initially gaining traction with SaaS companies, and recently appearing in NFV scenarios. Under the hood, k8s relies on an

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 3/Aug/20 08:40, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > Is the following extract from this Heavy Reading white paper > , > useful? > > " For transport network slicing,  > operators strongly

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > Still not sure how this will work considering a great deal of the global > Internet is for services that live on the public Internet, and many > specialized/private services would typically still run over fibre. > Is the following extract from this Heavy Reading white paper

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 2/Aug/20 06:51, Ahmed elBorno wrote: > Maybe I am off topic a little bit here and i'd like to be educated if > i am wrong but I think those 5G applications will move from VMs into > containers/microservices when their vendors see a business case to > rearchitect them, maybe its already

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

ateway.com Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:42:11 AM Subject: Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? I'm sorry, I didn't realize that anyone would get ruffled. On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:38 PM Scott Weeks < sur...@mauigateway.com > wrote: --- ed...@ieee

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 1/Aug/20 23:53, John Lee wrote: > > In 2000 we put our first pre-standard cloud together with multi > Gigabit routers and Sun workstations at 45 PoPs in the US, 3 in Asia > and 6 in Europe and implemented a "cloud" O/S. Our fastest links were > 10 Gbps. Now we can have 2-50 Tbps per fiber

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize that anyone would get ruffled. On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:38 PM Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- ed...@ieee.org wrote: > From: Etienne-Victor Depasquale > > See, for example, Azhar Sayeed's (Red Hat) contribution here >

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Maybe I am off topic a little bit here and i'd like to be educated if i am wrong but I think those 5G applications will move from VMs into containers/microservices when their vendors see a business case to rearchitect them, maybe its already happening as we speak. On the other side of that coin

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

In article <20200801143522.e25a8...@m0117164.ppops.net> you write: >--- ed...@ieee.org wrote: >From: Etienne-Victor Depasquale > >See, for example, Azhar Sayeed's (Red Hat) contribution here >@15:33.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

quale" To: "NANOG" Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 4:23:00 AM Subject: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Hi folks, Over the past few weeks, I've attended webinars and watched videos organized by Intel. These activities have centred on 5G and examined applications (like "v

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

The short answer is that the "Cloud Native Computing" folks need to talk to the Intel Embedded Systems Application engineers to discover that micro services have been running on Intel hardware in (non-standard) containers for years. We call it real time computing, process control,... Current multi

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

--- ed...@ieee.org wrote: From: Etienne-Victor Depasquale See, for example, Azhar Sayeed's (Red Hat) contribution here @15:33. Don't send links to this list that require

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 1/Aug/20 18:23, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Virtualization is not becoming obsolete ... quite reverse in fact in > all types of deployments I can see around.  > > The point is that VM provides hardware virtualization while kubernetes > with containers virtualize OS apps and services are running

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

An operating system is just a high-level machine. That the M-plane in VM is implemented in software isn’t relevant, as pretty much all hardware CPUs are implemented in software as well, so VM is just virtualizing software already. Containerization is VM, but using the OS as the M-plane As long

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > Clearly to virtualize operating systems as long as your level of > virtualization mainly in terms of security and resource consumption > isolation & reservation is satisfactory is a much better and lighter > option. > That pretty much sums up Intel's view. To quote an Intel executive I was

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > I reason that Intel's implication is that virtualization is becoming > obsolete. > Would anyone care to let me know his thoughts on this prediction? > Virtualization is not becoming obsolete ... quite reverse in fact in all types of deployments I can see around. The point is that VM provides

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 1/Aug/20 16:52, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > But the point is just that: how serious is this progression towards > cloud-native, if so much effort was put in to virtualization? I suspect that if a significant amount of investment has already gone into classic NFV, and for the most

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 1/Aug/20 16:33, Ca By wrote: > > Be careful not to confuse vendors pumping stuff with whats actually > deployed. Words of wisdom. Mark.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > Be careful not to confuse vendors pumping stuff with whats actually > deployed. > Well yes, there's always the hype factor to discount. The reason why I'm asking this forum is to separate hype from hope. Also, AT has been doing virtualization for nearly 10 years now, so > perhaps you were

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 7:21 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > The surprise for me regards Intel's (and the entire Cloud Native Computing > Foundation's?) readiness to move past network functions run on VMs > and towards network functions run as microservices in containers. > > See, for

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

The surprise for me regards Intel's (and the entire Cloud Native Computing Foundation's?) readiness to move past network functions run on VMs and towards network functions run as microservices in containers. See, for example, Azhar Sayeed's (Red Hat) contribution here

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 1/Aug/20 11:23, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > Over the past few weeks, I've attended webinars and watched videos > organized by Intel.  > These activities have centred on 5G and examined applications (like > "visual cloud" and "gaming"),  > as well as segment-oriented aspects (like edge

Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Hi folks, Over the past few weeks, I've attended webinars and watched videos organized by Intel. These activities have centred on 5G and examined applications (like "visual cloud" and "gaming"), as well as segment-oriented aspects (like edge networks, 5G RAN and 5G Core). I am stunned (no