The British have been using the correct six character word length for humour ad
memoriam.
Christian de Larrinaga
On 4 Dec 2011, at 15:15, Gary Buhrmaster gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 18:18, David Barak thegame...@yahoo.com wrote:
Should the HAC be expected to
- Original Message -
From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com
On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:27 AM, cdel.firsthand.net wrote:
The British have been using the correct six character word length
for humour ad memoriam.
Extra and unnecessary characters do not a correct word make.
The u is silent.
On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:55 AM, Paul Graydon wrote:
On 12/1/2011 7:20 PM, John Curran wrote:
Wayne -
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
so I'd advise waiting to review the actual sale order once approved by
the court before making summary conclusions.
ARIN
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 18:18, David Barak thegame...@yahoo.com wrote:
Should the HAC be expected to manage the transition to HumorV6?
I am not that familiar with Humorv6. Has Hv6 had sufficient
operational input, or is it based on a philosophically pure
redesign of humor making it
- Original Message -
From: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
if you're going to do a thing, do it RIGHT!!
Anything worth doing, is worth over-doing.
I love a good self-referential posting; don't you?
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 20:01, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
.
Suggestion received and needing confirmation:
That ARIN or a party it designates assign one or more sense(s) of humour to
the CEO.
I
It's hard to sustain that kind of commitment... so we need to form a Humor
Advisory Committee. Their job would be to determine which behaviors the
community finds most humorous. When the community doesn't produce enough
material, the comedy HAC would write jokes on our behalf (for adoption by
Should the HAC be expected to manage the transition to HumorV6?
David
From: David Barak thegame...@yahoo.com
Should the HAC be expected to manage the transition to HumorV6?
BEFORE that is introduced, one needs a mailing-list designated for discussion
of the potential problems an dangers associated therewith, similar to the
ACM's discussion list on computer
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes:
Would it be correct to summarize the ARIN position as It's murkier than
Cerner
makes it out to be, and some lawyers are gonna get stinking filthy rich
litigating this one?
:)
In any litigation, Counsel always wins. I often remind myself that
there's still
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:48 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Would it be correct to summarize the ARIN position as It's murkier than
Cerner
makes it out to be, and some lawyers are gonna get stinking filthy rich
litigating this one?
It's pretty simple: you can write a contract to transfer IP
Hi John,
I'm sorry to be thick, but can you explain right of visibility to the
public portion of registrations a little further?.
Under what circumstances might ARIN deny approval?
j
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:42 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:48 AM,
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
Hi John,
I'm sorry to be thick, but can you explain right of visibility to the
public portion of registrations a little further?.
Under what circumstances might ARIN deny approval?
Joly -
Requests are processed according the transfer
-Original Message-
From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net]
Joly -
Requests are processed according the transfer policies
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight. If a
request doesn't meet the transfer policy (e.g. the sale
is not to an actual entity that has an
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 03:52, Robert E. Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote:
In any litigation, Counsel always wins. I often remind myself that
there's still time to go to law school. :-)
It may be too late. The glory days of getting a JD
and then racking in the money are apparently over.
In a message written on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:04:23PM -0500, Michael R. Wayne
wrote:
After negotiating with multiple prospective buyers, Cerner Corp.
agreed to buy the Internet addresses for $12 each. Other bids were
as low as $1.50 each, according to a bankruptcy court filing.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Leigh Porter
leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote:
-Original Message-
From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net]
Joly -
Requests are processed according the transfer policies
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight. If a
request doesn't
On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
So I do wonder, how is this policy is being enforced and will ARIN be
investigating this current news item?
Leigh -
No investigation is needed, as I already noted the parties
have sought out ARIN in advance. Note that original sales
On Dec 1, 2011, at 23:04, Michael R. Wayne wa...@staff.msen.com wrote:
After negotiating with multiple prospective buyers, Cerner Corp.
agreed to buy the Internet addresses for $12 each. Other bids were
as low as $1.50 each, according to a bankruptcy court filing.
Clearly the addresses
I have acres on the moon that are up for sale.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Christopher J. Pilkington c...@0x1.net wrote:
On Dec 1, 2011, at 23:04, Michael R. Wayne wa...@staff.msen.com wrote:
After negotiating with multiple prospective buyers, Cerner Corp.
agreed to buy the Internet
On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
ARIN, on many occasions, has stated that they have no authority over
legacy address space. They made this declaration in the Kamens/sex.com
case. I haven't heard that anything has changed since then.
Martin -
ARIN will maintain the
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:04:23PM -0500, Michael R. Wayne
wrote:
After negotiating with multiple prospective buyers, Cerner Corp.
agreed to buy the Internet addresses for $12 each. Other bids were
as low as $1.50 each,
-Original Message-
From: Justin M. Streiner [mailto:strei...@cluebyfour.org]
Sent: 02 December 2011 19:26
To: Leo Bicknell
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: IP addresses are now assets
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:04:23PM -0500
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:[cut]
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
[cut]
ianal, but the treatment of ip addresses by the bankruptcy court would
tend to agree with the definition of an asset from webster's new world
law
--- jsah...@gmail.com wrote:
the speculative market exists and is growing, why do certain factions
of the community keep trying to pretend that it doesn't?
---
Because they're busy getting ipv6 up and that will make these things less
important? ;-)
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:37:29 -0500, joshua sahala jsah...@gmail.com
wrote:
Any property or right that is owned by a person or entity and has
monetary value. See also liability.
If it was a RIR assignment, it's not owned. It's more akin to a
lease. That said, there are documented
I have a boatload of IPv6 addresses I'm willing to sell at the low, low price
of $.01 each.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher J. Pilkington [mailto:c...@0x1.net]
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Michael R. Wayne
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: IP addresses are now assets
On Dec 1
From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Fri Dec 2 13:29:31
2011
From: Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com
To: Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org,
Leo Bicknell
bickn...@ufp.org
Subject: RE: IP addresses are now assets
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:29:43
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:37:29PM -0700, joshua sahala wrote:
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:[cut]
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
[cut]
ianal, but the treatment of ip addresses by the bankruptcy court would
tend
John Lightfoot jlightf...@gmail.com wrote;
I have a boatload of IPv6 addresses I'm willing to sell at the low, low price
of $.01 each.
Good for you. _I_ have somewhat over 17.8 million IPv4 addresses, in 3 large
blocks, for which I will sell my 'right to use', at half your offering price.
On 2 December 2011 20:01, Henry Yen he...@aegisinfosys.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:37:29PM -0700, joshua sahala wrote:
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:[cut]
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
[cut]
ianal
Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote on 12/02/2011 03:14:58 PM:
What about land? it's a public resource that you've paid money to
someone in exchange for transferring their rights over that public
resource to you.
Land is private property.
Joe
In a message written on Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 03:28:22PM -0500, Joe Loiacono
wrote:
Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote on 12/02/2011 03:14:58 PM:
What about land? it's a public resource that you've paid money to
someone in exchange for transferring their rights over that public
resource to
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:37:29PM -0700, joshua sahala wrote:
Any property or right that is owned by a person or entity and has
monetary value. See also liability.
All of the property of a person or entity or its total value;
entries on a balance sheet listing such property.
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:37 PM, joshua sahala wrote:
intangible asset
An asset that is not a physical thing and only evidenced by a
written document.
the addresses are being exchanged for money, in order to pay a
debt...how is this not a sale of an asset?
Joshua -
Rights to
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:37:29 MST, joshua sahala said:
the speculative market exists and is growing, why do certain factions
of the community keep trying to pretend that it doesn't?
I'm sure at least some of those factions pretend it doesn't because admitting
it does would be a game changer.
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:56 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:37:29 MST, joshua sahala said:
the speculative market exists and is growing, why do certain factions
of the community keep trying to pretend that it doesn't?
I'm sure at least some of those factions pretend
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Michael R. Wayne wa...@staff.msen.com wrote:
From
http://www.detnews.com/article/20111201/BIZ/112010483/1361/Borders-selling-Internet-addresses-for-$786-000
Borders selling Internet addresses for $786,000
Your IP address is an asset like the office you rent
- Original Message -
From: John Curran jcur...@arin.net
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:48 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Would it be correct to summarize the ARIN position as It's murkier than
Cerner
makes it out to be, and some lawyers are gonna get stinking filthy rich
litigating
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
No, Valdis, the ARIN position is if we wanted Curran to have a sense of
humor,
we'd have issued him one.
Changes in this area may be proposed via the ARIN Consultation and
Suggestion Process -
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 03:33:55AM +, John Curran wrote:
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
No, Valdis, the ARIN position is if we wanted Curran to have a sense of
humor,
we'd have issued him one.
Changes in this area may be proposed via the ARIN Consultation and
Ah... *this* is the Whacky Weekend thread.
--
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 03:33:55AM +, John Curran wrote:
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
No, Valdis, the ARIN position
From
http://www.detnews.com/article/20111201/BIZ/112010483/1361/Borders-selling-Internet-addresses-for-$786-000
Borders selling Internet addresses for $786,000
Bill Rochelle/ Bloomberg News
Borders Group Inc., the liquidated Ann Arbor-based bookseller, will
generate $786,000 by
Wayne -
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
so I'd advise waiting to review the actual sale order once approved by
the court before making summary conclusions.
ARIN holds that IP address space is not property but is managed as a
public resource. Address
On 12/1/2011 7:20 PM, John Curran wrote:
Wayne -
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
so I'd advise waiting to review the actual sale order once approved by
the court before making summary conclusions.
ARIN holds that IP address space is not property
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:20:39 GMT, John Curran said:
ARIN holds that IP address space is not property but is managed as a
public resource. Address holders may have certain rights (such as the
right to be the registrant of the address block, the right to transfer the
registration, etc.) but
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