Re: ISP port blocking practice/Free Speech

2009-10-26 Thread Richard Bennett
The U. S. Congress is on the spot already, proposing strict scrutiny tests for filtering and forwarding decisions of all kinds. RB Randy Bush wrote: should we now look forward to deep technical opinons from law clerks -- Richard Bennett Research Fellow Information Technology and

RE: ISP port blocking practice/Free Speech

2009-10-25 Thread Richard E. Brown
Free speech doesn't include the freedom to shout fire in a crowded theatre. It most certainly does! There is absolutely nothing to prevent one from shouting FIRE in a crowded theatre. Actually, it doesn't. When I was on-staff at the computer center at Dartmouth, our provost also

RE: ISP port blocking practice/Free Speech

2009-10-25 Thread Keith Medcalf
- From: Richard E. Brown [mailto:richard.e.br...@dartware.com] Sent: Sunday, 25 October, 2009 10:05 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: ISP port blocking practice/Free Speech Free speech doesn't include the freedom to shout fire in a crowded theatre. It most certainly does

Re: ISP port blocking practice/Free Speech

2009-10-25 Thread John Levine
Your scholar is wrong -- or he is giving the simplified explanation for children and others incapable of rational though and understanding, and you are believing the summary because it is simpler for you than understanding the underlying rational. Ah, the classic nerd legal misconception. Laws

Re: ISP port blocking practice/Free Speech

2009-10-25 Thread Randy Bush
should we now look forward to deep technical opinons from law clerks