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From: Scott Helms khe...@zcorum.com
Here is the architecture document:
http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/research.google.com/en/us/pubs/archive/36936.pdf
Nice get; that will make very interesting reading today. Thanks.
-- jra
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Scott Helms wrote:
Here is the architecture document:
http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/research.google.com/en/us/pubs/archive/36936.pdf
The document, seemingly, does not address drop cable cost
difference.
It does not address L1 unbundling with WDM-PON,
In a message written on Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:53:50PM -0600, Frank Bulk wrote:
Sure, Verizon has been able to get their cost per home passed down to $700
To be fair, Verizon has chosen to build their FIOS network in many
expensive to build locations, because that's where they believe
there to
- Original Message -
From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org
Remember that Google cherry-picked which city it would serve, so it was able
to identify location that is likely less challenging and expensive to serve
than the average. A lot of Google's Kansas City build will not be buried
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
True, but I think it means we've bound the problem. It appears to
take $1400-$4500 to deploy fiber to the home in urban and suburban
areas, depending on all the fun local factors that effect costs.
*sigh*
I'd gladly pay
- Original Message -
From: Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
True, but I think it means we've bound the problem. It appears to
take $1400-$4500 to deploy fiber to the home in urban and suburban
areas,
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
True, but I think it means we've bound the problem. It appears to
take
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Masataka Ohta
mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp wrote:
Scott Helms wrote:
Here is the architecture document:
http://static.**googleusercontent.com/**external_content/untrusted_**
Rural deployments present an entirely different problem of geography. I
suspect the dark fiber model I advocate for is appropriate for 80% of
the population from large cities to small towns; but for the 20% in
truely rural areas it doesn't work and there is no cheap option as far
as I can
Scott Helms wrote:
The document, seemingly, does not address drop cable cost
difference.
It does not address L1 unbundling with WDM-PON, which
requires fiber patch panel identical to that required
for SS, either.
They're not doing WDM-PON or any flavor of PON at all. Its entirely an
I've been searching for a few days on information about Google
Fiber's Kansas City deployment. While I wouldn't call Google
secretive in this particular case, they haven't been very outgoing
on some of the technologies. Based on the equipment they have deployed
there is speculation they are
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
I've been searching for a few days on information about Google
Fiber's Kansas City deployment. While I wouldn't call Google
secretive in this particular case, they haven't been very outgoing
on some of the technologies.
- Original Message -
From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org
Here's an article with some economics from several different
deployments:
http://fastnetnews.com/fiber-news/175-d/4835-fiber-economics-quick-and-dirty
Looks like $500-$700 in capex per residence is the current gold
standard.
In a message written on Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 05:03:52PM -0500, Jay Ashworth
wrote:
From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org
Looks like $500-$700 in capex per residence is the current gold
standard. Note that the major factor is the take rate; if there are
two providers doing FTTH they are both
selective
deployment approach.
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 4:40 PM
To: NANOG
Subject: Re: Is Google Fiber a model for Municipal Networks?
In a message written on Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 05:03:52PM -0500, Jay Ashworth
When comparing costs of building (per home passed/connected), it is also
important to see if those quoted costs include the regulatory costs of
dealing with cities.
If a municipal project won't suffer costs of negotiating for
diggging/building permits, already has the land to build the CO, and
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