On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:28:07 -0700, Owen DeLong said:
A reliable cost-effective means for FTL signaling is a hard problem without
a known solution.
Agreed.
An idiot-proof simple BGP configuration is a well known solution. Automating
it would be relatively simple if there were the will to do
In a message written on Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 12:54:18PM -0400, John Curran
wrote:
I believe that the percentage which _expects_ unabridged connectivity
today is quite high, but that does not necessarily mean actual _demand_
(i.e. folks who go out and make the necessary arrangements despite
On 3/23/13 9:13 PM, Matt Palmer wrote:
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 07:47:12PM -0700, Kyle Creyts wrote:
You do realize that there are quite a few people (home broadband
subscribers?) who just go do something else when their internet goes
down, right?
[...]
Will they really demand ubiquitous,
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Kyle Creyts kyle.cre...@gmail.com wrote:
Will they really demand ubiquitous, unabridged connectivity?
When?
When the older generation that considers the Internet a side show dies off.
When your grandparents' power went out, they broke out candles and
kerosene
On Mar 23, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Kyle Creyts kyle.cre...@gmail.com wrote:
Will they really demand ubiquitous, unabridged connectivity?
Let's back up. End users do not as a rule* have persistent inbound
connections. If they have DSL and a Cable Modem they can switch manually (or
with a
On Mar 24, 2013, at 12:06 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
...
For most folks under 30 and many who are older, Internet isn't a side
show, it's a way of life. An outage is like a power failure or the car
going kaput: a major disruption to life's flow.
Yes, this is increasingly the
As an under-30, working in the industry, I have to say, when the power goes
out at home for a few days, we pull out the camping gear.
When our cable-based internet goes out, our life changes hardly at all. We
go for a walk, or hike, do the things we would normally. I can imagine that
an outage of
I assume those people will not bother with any attempt to multihome in any form.
They are not, therefore, part of what is being discussed here.
Owen
On Mar 23, 2013, at 19:47 , Kyle Creyts kyle.cre...@gmail.com wrote:
You do realize that there are quite a few people (home broadband
On Mar 22, 2013, at 15:44 , valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:16:57 -0500, Owen DeLong said:
On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:
Based on the average clue of your average residential subscriber (anyone
here need not apply) I'd say that's a
On 3/23/13, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
A reliable cost-effective means for FTL signaling is a hard problem without
a known solution.
Faster than light signalling is not merely a hard problem.
Special relativity doesn't provide that information may travel faster
than the maximum
speed C.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 6:44 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:16:57 -0500, Owen DeLong said:
On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:
Based on the average clue of your average residential subscriber (anyone
here need not apply) I'd say
On Mar 23, 2013, at 12:12 , Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/23/13, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
A reliable cost-effective means for FTL signaling is a hard problem without
a known solution.
Faster than light signalling is not merely a hard problem.
Special relativity
You do realize that there are quite a few people (home broadband
subscribers?) who just go do something else when their internet goes
down, right?
There are people who don't understand the difference between a site being
slow and packet-loss. For many of these people, losing internet service
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:16:57 -0500, Owen DeLong said:
On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:
Based on the average clue of your average residential subscriber (anyone
here need not apply) I'd say that's a good thing.
If BGP were plug-and-play automated with
On 3/20/13, John Curran jcur...@istaff.org wrote:
On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
However, if there were motivation on the provider side, automated BGP
configuration could enable consumers to attach to multiple providers and
actually reduce support calls
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