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Subject: Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 2:37 AM Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG
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1. What is going on on the Internet is not democracy even formally,
bec
On 11/5/22 8:19 AM, Masataka Ohta wrote:
William Allen Simpson wrote:
Something similar happened with IPv6. Cisco favored a design where only
they had the hardware mechanism for high speed forwarding. So we're
stuck with 128-bit addresses and separate ASNs.
Given that high speed
On 10/31/22 00:41, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:
2) To follow what you are saying, I wonder how could we think "out of
the box" or go "back to the future", before it is too late for our
world wide communications infrastructure to serve as a reliable daily
tool without being a distraction
William Allen Simpson wrote:
Something similar happened with IPv6. Cisco favored a design where only
they had the hardware mechanism for high speed forwarding. So we're
stuck with 128-bit addresses and separate ASNs.
Really?
Given that high speed forwarding at that time meant TCAM,
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Subject: Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC
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> On Nov 2, 2022, at 5:50 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote:
>
> In the early years of the
> NomCom, I believe there were a small number of
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> On Nov 2, 2022, at 5:50 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote:
>
> In the early years of the
> NomCom, I believe there were a small number of cases of a 3 year term
> but only for an AD who had already successfully served for 2 years.
On 11/2/22 8:33 AM, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:
0) "Internet Vendor Task Force indeed.": Thank you so much in distilling this
thread one more step for getting even closer to its essence.
As I'd mentioned already, Randy Bush has also had some cogent thoughts
over the years. That's where I'd
I suppose this might be a useful point to butt in and say that one
reason we don't/can't easily term-limit US representatives to congress
is that it unjustly removes their right to run for office.
Obviously (I think) not apropos to IETF functioning tho perhaps in
spirit.
But it's why it took
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> Subject: Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC
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> On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 2:37 AM Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG
> wrote:
> >
> > 1. Wh
Dear William:
0) "Internet Vendor Task Force indeed.": Thank you so much in
distilling this thread one more step for getting even closer to its essence.
1) The ITU charter is explicit in that governments are the parties who
sponsor the Recommendations, then implement them as desired,
On 10/31/22 9:27 AM, Donald Eastlake wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 2:37 AM Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG
wrote:
1. What is going on on the Internet is not democracy even formally,
because there is no formal voting.
3GPP, ETSI, 802.11 have voting. IETF decisions are made by bosses who did
it.
Eduard
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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 4:28 PM
To: Vasilenko Eduard ; North American Network
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Subject: Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 2:37 AM Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG
wr
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 2:37 AM Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG
wrote:
>
> 1. What is going on on the Internet is not democracy even formally,
> because there is no formal voting.
> 3GPP, ETSI, 802.11 have voting. IETF decisions are made by bosses who did
> manage to gain power (primarily by
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Subject: Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC
Dear Noah:
0) "Iterations often times leads back to the beginning.": Thanks for
distilling this thread to a concise principle. Perhaps your name was given with
the foresight of this discussion?
1) As
Dear Noah:
0) "Iterations often times leads back to the beginning.": Thanks for
distilling this thread to a concise principle. Perhaps your name was
given with the foresight of this discussion?
1) As a newcomer to the arena, I have always been perplexed by the
apparent collective NIH
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