Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Is CloudFlare able to filter Layer 7 these days? I was under the impression CloudFlare was not able to do that. There have been a lot of rumors ab

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > Is CloudFlare able to filter Layer 7 these days? I was under the >> impression CloudFlare was not able to do that. >> >> There have been a lot of rumors about this attack. Some say reflection, >

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Is CloudFlare able to filter Layer 7 these days? I was under the impression CloudFlare was not able to do that. There have been a lot of rumors about this attack. Some say reflection, others say Layer 7, others say .. other stuff. If it is Layer

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote: > > If the attackers were hitting the GRE tunnel destination and spoofing the > tunnel source that would make things harder, but that's starting to get into > rather intimate knowledge of the scrubber's and customer's setup. I could > still

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread jim deleskie
Not at all. I refered to AUP's as a way people remove you from a service when you use more of it then you are paying for. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, jim deleskie wrote: > > > They were hosting him for free, and like insurance, I can assure you

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Mel Beckman
A similar GRE attack was used against the Olympics: "Once the Olympics got under way, LizardStresser along with a few other botnets ramped up their attack against organizations affiliated with the Olympics. The DDoS campaign launched attack traffic using the lesser-known IP protocol Generic Rou

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Fri 2016-Sep-23 17:29:59 -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote: Please tell me why I can't spoof source IPs on a stateless protocol like GRE. If he specifically meant you can't spoof a source, hit a reflector, and gain amplification, sure, but I se

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote: > > Please tell me why I can't spoof source IPs on a stateless protocol like GRE. > If he specifically meant you can't spoof a source, hit a reflector, and gain > amplification, sure, but I see zero reason why GRE can't have spoofed source >

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Hugo Slabbert
> > > >http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ > >> > > >> > > "Security blog Krebs on Security has been taken offline by host >Akamai >> > > Technologies following a DDoS a

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Jörg Kost
Yes, they do (or advertise): https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170216-How-large-of-a-DDoS-attack-can-CloudFlare-handle- Jörg On 23 Sep 2016, at 21:26, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Is CloudFlare able to filter Layer 7 these days? I was under the impression CloudFlare was not able

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Justin Paine via NANOG
We routinely mitigate L7s. Matthew is also on the record saying we've seen and mitigated similar attacks to this one (based on available information about this attack). Justin Paine Head of Trust & Safety CloudFlare Inc. PGP: BBAA 6BCE 3305 7FD6 6452 7115 57B6 0114 DE0B 314D On Fri,

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Is CloudFlare able to filter Layer 7 these days? I was under the impression CloudFlare was not able to do that. There have been a lot of rumors about this attack. Some say reflection, others say Layer 7, others say .. other stuff. If it is Layer 7, how are you going to ‘step in front of the can

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Justin Paine via NANOG
FWIW, we have offered to help. No word so far. We're more than willing to step in front of the cannon pointed his way. Justin Paine Head of Trust & Safety CloudFlare Inc. PGP: BBAA 6BCE 3305 7FD6 6452 7115 57B6 0114 DE0B 314D On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Marcin Cieslak wrote:

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Sven-Haegar Koch
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Mike wrote: > On 09/23/2016 11:30 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 9/23/16 10:58, Grant Ridder wrote: > > > Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers > > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, jim deleskie wrote: > They were hosting him for free, and like insurance, I can assure you if you > are consistently using a service, and not covering the costs of that > service you won't be a client for long. This is the basis for AUP/client > contracts and have been going

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Mike
On 09/23/2016 11:30 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 9/23/16 10:58, Grant Ridder wrote: Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ "Security blog Krebs on Securit

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/23/16 10:58, Grant Ridder wrote: Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ "Security blog Krebs on Security has been taken offline by host Akamai Technologies f

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread DaKnOb
p://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ > > "Security blog Krebs on Security has been taken offline by host Akamai > Technologies following a DDoS attack which reached 665 Gbps in size." > > -Grant

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Mel Beckman
point though. > > -- > Alex Wacker > > > On September 23, 2016 at 2:00:10 PM, Grant Ridder (shortdudey...@gmail.com) > wrote: > > Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers > http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Filip Hruska
While we are on topic of DDOS, it looks like it's quite a storm now. According to this WHT post [1], some large server providers were recently attacked, and many are still being attacked with quite a large bandwidth, ie 1Tbps attacks against OVH. [2], [3] Regards, Filip [1] http://www.webh

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Grant Ridder wrote: > Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers > http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off- > akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ > > "Security blog Krebs on Security has been tak

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread jim deleskie
midwest-ix.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Grant Ridder" > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:58:44 PM > Subject: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack > proves pricey > > Didn't realize Akamai kicked

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 23, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Grant Ridder wrote: > > Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers > http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ > > "Security blog Krebs on Security has been tak

RE: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Justin Krejci
ptember 23, 2016 12:58 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 10:58:44AM -0700, Grant Ridder wrote: > Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers They didn't - Krebs has publicly stated that Akamai were providing services "Pro Bono" - and I guess the goodwill ran out :) Simon

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Alex Wacker
omers http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ "Security blog Krebs on Security has been taken offline by host Akamai Technologies following a DDoS attack which reached 665 Gbps in size." -Grant

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
6 12:58:44 PM Subject: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ "Security blog Krebs

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Grant Ridder said: > Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers Any business is likely to kick out customers that cost them much more than they are being paid (under relevant contract terms of course). Since his blog was being hosted for free, it isn't surprising tha

Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-23 Thread Grant Ridder
Didn't realize Akamai kicked out or disabled customers http://www.zdnet.com/article/krebs-on-security-booted-off-akamai-network-after-ddos-attack-proves-pricey/ "Security blog Krebs on Security has been taken offline by host Akamai Technologies following a DDoS attack which reached 6

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