Re: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-08 Thread Joe Greco
> > Here's a theoretical solution to this problem that I'd like to open for > > discussion. > > > > In each location where a provider hosts their anycasted service, there > > is likely a local, non-anycasted IP address for each server. There should be, yes. > > When > >

Re: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-08 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Peter Beckman writes: > After a few emails traded with David Ulevitch from OpenDNS, it is clear to > me that they do NOT suffer from this issue, and have a work-around. My > apologies to David and to OpenDNS for lumping them in and not doing better > due dilligence when rese

RE: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-08 Thread Peter Beckman
After a few emails traded with David Ulevitch from OpenDNS, it is clear to me that they do NOT suffer from this issue, and have a work-around. My apologies to David and to OpenDNS for lumping them in and not doing better due dilligence when researching this issue. On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, TJ wrot

RE: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-07 Thread TJ
@nanog.org >Subject: RE: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands? > >On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Peter Beckman wrote: > >> I'm OK to that IP as well, but when I query www.google.com, I get >> multiple IPs, but here are the ones that in in 147: >> >> DNS Server

Re: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-06 Thread Stephen Stuart
> On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 12:05:41PM -0500, Peter Beckman wrote: > > I'm OK to that IP as well, but when I query www.google.com, I get multiple > > IPs, but here are the ones that in in 147: > > > > DNS Server IP Route (for me) > > 205.234.170.217 (tiggee)74.125.79

Re: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-06 Thread Nicolas Hyvernat
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 12:05:41PM -0500, Peter Beckman wrote: > I'm OK to that IP as well, but when I query www.google.com, I get multiple > IPs, but here are the ones that in in 147: > > DNS Server IP Route (for me) > 205.234.170.217 (tiggee)74.125.79.147 Amste

Re: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-06 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-02-06, Peter Beckman wrote: > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Peter Beckman wrote: > >> I'm OK to that IP as well, but when I query www.google.com, I get multiple >> IPs, but here are the ones that in in 147: >> >> DNS Server IP Route (for me) >> 205.234.170.217 (tiggee)

Re: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-06 Thread William Allen Simpson
Peter Beckman wrote: SO. Who's problem is this to fix? Is it: 1. Me? Am I a dope for using a very reliable but anycasted resolving name service? Clearly, I could just use the handy dandy easy to remember because I worked there 198.6.1.x, or is that an Internet faux

RE: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-06 Thread Peter Beckman
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Peter Beckman wrote: I'm OK to that IP as well, but when I query www.google.com, I get multiple IPs, but here are the ones that in in 147: DNS Server IP Route (for me) 205.234.170.217 (tiggee)74.125.79.147 Amsterdam 208.67.222.222 (opendns

RE: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-06 Thread Peter Beckman
om: Peter Beckman [mailto:beck...@angryox.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:01 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands? Seems strange. Had a partial outage on Verizon network this morning around 9:50am EST, then when it came back around 10:05am, google routed via

RE: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-06 Thread Wallace Keith
-f100.google.com (74.125.67.100) 28.393 ms 209.85.255.194 (209.85.255.194) 35.464 ms -Original Message- From: Peter Beckman [mailto:beck...@angryox.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:01 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands? Seems strange. Had a

L3: Google from DC via the Netherlands?

2009-02-06 Thread Peter Beckman
Seems strange. Had a partial outage on Verizon network this morning around 9:50am EST, then when it came back around 10:05am, google routed via the Netherlands. My guess is that there's some sort of routing problem making my fastest or least cost route go to the Netherlands, but I wanted to find