Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

I think this goes back to 2016. This explains it better than I could. https://publicknowledge.org/the-fccs-plan-to-gut-tech-transitions-rules-is-bad-for-consumers-small-businesses-and-competition/ Essentially Mr.Pai didn't change the rules, he pushed through the order ( FCC-16-90 ) that

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

> I had the same thought and dug into it. I traced the email chain backwards as > well as the office phone. The email (and named employee) are legit as well as > the switch serving the office line. Everything adds up. I don't have a reason > to believe it's a scam. They also noted they will

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 11:12 AM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > > > On Feb 17, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. > wrote: > > > > I have a note in to some FCC colleagues; I'll report back on what they > say (assuming I hear back). > > > > P.S. In the meantime, the claimed order on

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 11:09 AM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-72A1.docx > > It says nothing about this. And certainly the FCC would not issue > something with such a short date fuse; that letter appears to be a scam > using scare and pressure

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

> On Feb 17, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. > wrote: > > I have a note in to some FCC colleagues; I'll report back on what they say > (assuming I hear back). > P.S. In the meantime, the claimed order on which the letter rests is FCC-19-72A1 which you can find here, if you're

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

I have a note in to some FCC colleagues; I'll report back on what they say (assuming I hear back). Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law CEO Get to the Inbox by SuretyMail Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) Author: The Email Deliverability

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:22 PM wrote: > > >I believe that should be 19-72A1. > > > >https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-72A1.pdf > > > >Essentially, all services must be transitioned to fiber or wireless by > August 2nd, 2022. > > I'm reading that document and that's not what it

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:20 PM wrote: > > >I believe that should be 19-72A1. > > > >https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-72A1.pdf > > > >Essentially, all services must be transitioned to fiber or wireless by > August 2nd, 2022. > > I'm reading that document and that's not what it

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

>I believe that should be 19-72A1. > >https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-72A1.pdf > >Essentially, all services must be transitioned to fiber or wireless by August >2nd, 2022. I'm reading that document and that's not what it appears to say at all. This seems to be about

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

: nanog > Subject: Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties > Reply-To: Brandon Svec > > I found an alarmist email from a provider that I have not fact checked that > states- > > The FCC has issued Order 10-72A1 that mandates that all POTS Lines in the USA > be

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

see any mandate, let alone about copper. -- //Shrikumar ---Original Message--- > From: Brandon Svec via NANOG > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 18:20:43 -0800 > To: Martin Hannigan > Cc: nanog > Subject: Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties > Reply-To: Brandon

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 08:58:21PM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote: > At least in Boston, commercial property owners are receiving notices that > 'copper lines are being removed per FCC rules' and replaced with fiber. > The property owner, not the network operators (or users of unbundled > elements

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

Noted!!! On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:39 PM wrote: > As I posted earlier, it’s supposed to be 19-72A1. > > Shane > > > On Feb 16, 2022, at 10:30 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: > > > > On 2/16/22 18:20, Brandon Svec via NANOG wrote: > >> I found an alarmist email from a provider that I

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

As I posted earlier, it’s supposed to be 19-72A1. Shane > On Feb 16, 2022, at 10:30 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: > > On 2/16/22 18:20, Brandon Svec via NANOG wrote: >> I found an alarmist email from a provider that I have not fact checked that >> states- >> The FCC has issued Order 10-72A1 that

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

On 2/16/22 18:20, Brandon Svec via NANOG wrote: I found an alarmist email from a provider that I have not fact checked that states- The FCC has issued Order 10-72A1 that mandates that a*ll POTS Lines in the USA be replaced with an alternative service by August 2, 2022.* Fake news. That's

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

I believe that should be 19-72A1. https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-72A1.pdf Essentially, all services must be transitioned to fiber or wireless by August 2nd, 2022. Shane > On Feb 16, 2022, at 9:27 PM, Brandon Svec via NANOG wrote: > > I found an alarmist email from a

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

Noted But retirees ...??? Against an Element that has its own place on the Periodic Table of Elements Kind of funny how new homes now are built with blue n red Plastic tubing for water!! Cu is $ Ju $ayin Perhaps a deterrent to future “anticipated” THEFT and anticipated

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

> > Watching the Spot Price > > AIP sounds Suspicious > > In the Ol’ days CO’s would be broken into > And the Cu stolen... even the Telco cutoffs disappeared! > > Prices are exponentially Higher now! > > > H > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:17 PM Martin Hannigan > wrote: > >> >>

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

For what a 100watt 1U box? -LB Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO b...@6by7.net "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.” ANNOUNCING: 6x7 GLOBAL MARITIME

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

I found an alarmist email from a provider that I have not fact checked that states- The FCC has issued Order 10-72A1 that mandates that all POTS Lines in the USA be replaced with an alternative service by August 2, 2022. Brandon Svec > On Feb 16, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Brandon Svec wrote: > >

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

Saw this https://www.nojitter.com/consultant-perspectives/decommissioning-copper-gets-real

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

Looks like its abandon in place "AIP" from the agreement. On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:03 PM L F wrote: > Who becomes the Beneficial Owner of the Copper once Removed? > > > Just Curious. > > > LF > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:01 PM Martin Hannigan > wrote: > >> >> NANOG'ers; >> >> At least in

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

Telcos have been trying/begging/warning of discontinuing copper for many years. Maybe the political and regulatory environment is currently allowing them to get on with it in some areas? I don’t think there is an FCC rule requiring the fiber as much as allowing the removal of copper. Brandon

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

Do MSOs and CLEC/fiber providers require free power and space? On Wed, Feb 16, 2022, 7:59 PM Martin Hannigan wrote: > > NANOG'ers; > > At least in Boston, commercial property owners are receiving notices that > 'copper lines are being removed per FCC rules' and replaced with fiber. > The

Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties

Who becomes the Beneficial Owner of the Copper once Removed? Just Curious. LF On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:01 PM Martin Hannigan wrote: > > NANOG'ers; > > At least in Boston, commercial property owners are receiving notices that > 'copper lines are being removed per FCC rules' and replaced

LEC copper removal from commercial properties

NANOG'ers; At least in Boston, commercial property owners are receiving notices that 'copper lines are being removed per FCC rules' and replaced with fiber. The property owner, not the network operators (or users of unbundled elements if that's even still a thing) are being presented with an