Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
Hey all, I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. . Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We don't yet provide any transit services, but the requirement for us to do so may creep up on a very small scale shortly. Nonetheless... I'm on

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
--- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I What do other providers do? Are your transit peers connected directly to the core? I

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca layered. My

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
--- deles...@gmail.com wrote: From: jim deleskie deles...@gmail.com Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. --- I'd imagine it depends on the network size.

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
I've done it much larger then small networks. Dependency is much more related to gear used then network size. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: --- deles...@gmail.com wrote: From: jim deleskie deles...@gmail.com Border/Core/Access is great

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread James Jones
Ditto Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 19:38, Scott Weeks wrote: --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I What do other providers do? Are your transit peers connected directly to the

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Jared Mauch
On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: Hey all, I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. . Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We don't yet provide any transit services, but the requirement for us to do so may

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 19:41, jim deleskie wrote: Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. Hi Jim, Unfortunately, I have a mix of EOL Cisco gear in my network, along with other random custom-built software routers,

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:19, Jared Mauch wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: Hey all, I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. . Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We don't yet provide any transit services, but

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Of course all designs are limited to the budget you have to build the network :) On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: On 2010.02.17 19:41, jim deleskie wrote: Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a vendor that sells under power kit.  

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:45, jim deleskie wrote: Of course all designs are limited to the budget you have to build the network :) Heh, yeah, but it's unbelievable what one can learn on an eBay diet when they put their entire heart, soul and dedication into it! Steve

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Absolutely. I've worked on networks where I'm was amazed on someday we held it all together, but that is truly when you learn the most. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: On 2010.02.17 20:45, jim deleskie wrote: Of course all designs are limited to

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:48, jim deleskie wrote: Absolutely. I've worked on networks where I'm was amazed on someday we held it all together, but that is truly when you learn the most. I'm very, very happy that there are people out there who can actually see that... Steve