HCX MTU

2023-09-20 Thread David Ratkay
Anybody work with VMWare HCX having weird MTU issues? Can provide more info but just curious

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 19:00, Dovid Bender wrote: > I currently have an airlink that is connected directly to a raritan console > server. The public IP sits on the raritan. The airlink does not seem to have > any MTU options. Ideally I would change the MTU on the interface of the LTE

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 11:56:57AM -0400, Dovid Bender wrote: >I currently have an airlink that is connected directly to a raritan >console server. The public IP sits on the raritan. The airlink does not >seem to have any MTU options. Ideally I would change the M

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Dovid Bender
I currently have an airlink that is connected directly to a raritan console server. The public IP sits on the raritan. The airlink does not seem to have any MTU options. Ideally I would change the MTU on the interface of the LTE modem wich would force the raritan to send all data < 1400 bytes

RE: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Phil Lavin
> We have VZ wireless in the data center as a backup to our core > infrastructure. We have an issue where if packets have a large MTU they seem > to die. Does anyone know of a good 4G modem where I can set the MTU on the > cellular connection? I suspect it's a bit more

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, > We have VZ wireless in the data center as a backup to our core > infrastructure. We have an issue where if packets have a large MTU they seem > to die. Does anyone know of a good 4G modem where I can set the MTU on the > cellular connection? Cisco ISR with NIM-4G-LTE-VZ -- ++ytti

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 10:10 AM Dovid Bender wrote: > > Hi, > > We have VZ wireless in the data center as a backup to our core > infrastructure. We have an issue where if packets have a large MTU they seem > to die. Does anyone know of a good 4G modem where I can set the MTU

LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Dovid Bender
Hi, We have VZ wireless in the data center as a backup to our core infrastructure. We have an issue where if packets have a large MTU they seem to die. Does anyone know of a good 4G modem where I can set the MTU on the cellular connection? TIA. Dovid

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018, Mark Andrews wrote: Which doesn’t work with IPv6 as UDP doesn’t have the field to clamp. Well, not with UDP/IPv4 either. Actually, the only protocol I know out there that has this kind of clamping (and is in wide use for clamping), is TCP. Thus, my earlier comment abou

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Mark Andrews
Which doesn’t work with IPv6 as UDP doesn’t have the field to clamp. -- Mark Andrews > On 20 Jan 2018, at 03:35, Radu-Adrian Feurdean > wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018, at 01:14, Jared Mauch wrote: >> If you’re then doing DSL + PPPoE and your customers really see a M

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018, at 01:14, Jared Mauch wrote: > If you’re then doing DSL + PPPoE and your customers really see a MTU > of 1492 or less, then another device has to fragment 5x again. In this part of the world we have even worse stuff around: PPP over L2TP over over IP with 15

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Wouldn't those situations be causing issues now, given the likelihood that > someone with a less than 1,500 byte MTU is communicating with you now? Hi Mike, They do. These are the people calling your support line with the com

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 janvier 2018 08:07 -0600, Mike Hammett  : > Wouldn't those situations be causing issues now, given the likelihood > that someone with a less than 1,500 byte MTU is communicating with you > now? Those situations are causing issues now. If you have a MTU less than 1500 bytes

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: >> On Jan 18, 2018, at 8:44 PM, William Herrin wrote: >>> Which packet? Is there a specific CDN that does this? I’d be curious to >>> see >>> data vs speculation. >> >> Path MTU discovery (whi

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Olivier Benghozi
D not work? Honest >> question, not troll. > > Mismatch of MTU interface settings between interfaces, mismatch of MTU > between L3 devices and intermediate L2 devices, anycast services, ECMP based > services where the ICMP error is delivered to the wrong node. > > S

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:48 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Other than people improperly blocking ICMP, when does PMTUD not work? > Honest question, not troll. > Hi Mike, One common scenario: the router's interface is numbered with an RFC 1918 private IP address. The packet is dropped because it tri

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018, Mike Hammett wrote: Wouldn't those situations be causing issues now, given the likelihood that someone with a less than 1,500 byte MTU is communicating with you now? If the issue is that you're letting 8996 byte packets through but not 9000 byte packet

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
om: "Jared Mauch" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG list" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:13:02 AM Subject: Re: MTU to CDN's > On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:07 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Wouldn't those situations be causing issues now, given the li

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:07 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Wouldn't those situations be causing issues now, given the likelihood that > someone with a less than 1,500 byte MTU is communicating with you now? > Tends to be more localized and less visible in many cases. I

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Ruairi Carroll
Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" > To: "Michael Crapse" > Cc: "NANOG list" > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 1:22:02 AM > Subject: Re: MTU to CDN's > > On Thu, 18

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Wouldn't those situations be causing issues now, given the likelihood that someone with a less than 1,500 byte MTU is communicating with you now? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Me

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018, Mike Hammett wrote: Other than people improperly blocking ICMP, when does PMTUD not work? Honest question, not troll. Mismatch of MTU interface settings between interfaces, mismatch of MTU between L3 devices and intermediate L2 devices, anycast services, ECMP based

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Jared Mauch
see >>> data vs speculation. >> >> Howdy, >> >> Path MTU discovery (which sets the DF bit on TCP packets) is enabled >> by default on -every- operating system that's shipped for decades now. >> If you don't want it, you have to explicitly disable it.

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jan 18, 2018, at 8:44 PM, William Herrin wrote: > >> Which packet? Is there a specific CDN that does this? I’d be curious to see >> data vs speculation. > > Howdy, > > Path MTU discovery (which sets the DF bit on TCP packets) is enabled > by default o

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
: "Michael Crapse" Cc: "NANOG list" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 1:22:02 AM Subject: Re: MTU to CDN's On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, Michael Crapse wrote: > I don't mind letting the client premises routers break down 9000 byte > packets. My ISP controls end to e

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
less network congestion for end users for a one time $60 service many people would want. It's also where the internet should be heading... Not to beat a dead horse(re:ipv6 ) but why hasn't the entire internet just moved to 9000(or 9600 L2) byte MTU? It was created for the jump to gigabit...

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread Michael Crapse
time $60 service many people would want. It's also where the internet should be heading... Not to beat a dead horse(re:ipv6 ) but why hasn't the entire internet just moved to 9000(or 9600 L2) byte MTU? It was created for the jump to gigabit... That's 4 orders of magnitude ago. T

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 janvier 2018 08:53 +1000, George Michaelson  : > if I was an ISP (Im not) and a CDN came and said "we want to be inside > you" (ewww) why wouldn't I say "sure: lets jumbo" Most traffic would be with clients limited to at most 1500 bytes. -- Its name is Public Opinion. It is held in revere

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread William Herrin
need >>> to fragment, then it’s your routers job to slice 9000 into 5 x 1500. >> >> In practice, no, because the packet you sent had the "don't fragment" >> bit set. > > Which packet? Is there a specific CDN that does this? I’d be curious to see > dat

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jan 18, 2018, at 7:32 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: >> lets say i can >> send you a 9K packet. If you receive that frame, and realize you need >> to fragment, then it’s your routers job to slice 9000 into 5 x 1500. > > In practice, no,

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 18, 2018, at 4:32 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: >> lets say i can >> send you a 9K packet. If you receive that frame, and realize you need >> to fragment, then it’s your routers job to slice 9000 into 5 x 1500. > > In practice, no,

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > lets say i can > send you a 9K packet. If you receive that frame, and realize you need > to fragment, then it’s your routers job to slice 9000 into 5 x 1500. In practice, no, because the packet you sent had the "don't fragment" bit set. That

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread Jared Mauch
eap dumb switches, but > even dumb switches like bigger packets dont they? less forwarding > decision cost, for more throughput? The reason is most customers are at a lower MTU size. lets say i can send you a 9K packet. If you receive that frame, and realize you need to fragment, then it’s

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread George Michaelson
en sure go ahead and use jumbo frames otherwise use the lowest > common denominator MTU when transmitting. This is less than 1500 on > today Internet and encapsulated traffic is reasonable common. > > embedded CND <--> NAT64 <--> CLAT <--> client >

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread Mark Andrews
common denominator MTU when transmitting. This is less than 1500 on today Internet and encapsulated traffic is reasonable common. embedded CND <--> NAT64 <--> CLAT <--> client 1500 14XX 1500 embedded CDN <-->

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread George Michaelson
hroughput? On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 6:21 AM, Dovid Bender wrote: > Vincent, > > Thanks. That URL explained a lot. > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > >> ❦ 8 janvier 2018 15:08 -0800, joel jaeggli : >> >> >> N00b here trying to un

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-18 Thread Dovid Bender
Vincent, Thanks. That URL explained a lot. On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 8 janvier 2018 15:08 -0800, joel jaeggli : > > >> N00b here trying to understand why certain CDN's such as Cloudfare have > >> issues where my MTU is low. For in

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-09 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 8 janvier 2018 15:08 -0800, joel jaeggli  : >> N00b here trying to understand why certain CDN's such as Cloudfare have >> issues where my MTU is low. For instance if I am using pptp and the MTU is >> at 1300 it wont work. If I increase to 1478 it may or may not wor

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-08 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
destination will work fine. This is understandable, but if this is also an operational practice we as the operational community want to condone (people using solutions where PMTUD doesn't work), then we also need to make sure that all applications do PLMTUD (RFC4821, Packet Level MTU Discovery).

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-08 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Mon, 08 Jan 2018 17:55:55 -0500, Dovid Bender said: > Hi, > > N00b here trying to understand why certain CDN's such as Cloudfare have > issues where my MTU is low. For instance if I am using pptp and the MTU is > at 1300 it wont work. If I increase to 1478 it may or may n

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-08 Thread Mark Andrews
such as Cloudfare have >> issues where my MTU is low. For instance if I am using pptp and the MTU is >> at 1300 it wont work. If I increase to 1478 it may or may not work. > > I've done some measurements over the internet in the past year or > so and 1400 byte packets

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-08 Thread Jared Mauch
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:55:55PM -0500, Dovid Bender wrote: > Hi, > > N00b here trying to understand why certain CDN's such as Cloudfare have > issues where my MTU is low. For instance if I am using pptp and the MTU is > at 1300 it wont work. If I increase to 1478 it

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/8/18 2:55 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: > Hi, > > N00b here trying to understand why certain CDN's such as Cloudfare have > issues where my MTU is low. For instance if I am using pptp and the MTU is > at 1300 it wont work. If I increase to 1478 it may or may not work. PMTUD

MTU to CDN's

2018-01-08 Thread Dovid Bender
Hi, N00b here trying to understand why certain CDN's such as Cloudfare have issues where my MTU is low. For instance if I am using pptp and the MTU is at 1300 it wont work. If I increase to 1478 it may or may not work. TIA.

Re: ospf database size - affects that underlying transport mtu might have

2017-11-27 Thread Rafael Ganascim
range with underlying transport network mtu possibly causing ospf neighbor adjacency to be broken ? Yes, the neighbor state will loop between init/Exchange and it will never become Full. As others said, you need to test the MTU size without fragmentation and adjust in your L3 interface (ping w

RE: ospf database size - affects that underlying transport mtu might have

2017-11-27 Thread Scott Weeks
be pretty big. According to: https://supportforums.cisco.com/t5/service-providers-documents/ospf-and-mtu/ta-p/3118885 "RFC 2328 (OSPF version 2 specification) says...If necessary, the length of OSPF packets can be up to 65,535 bytes (including the IP header). The OSPF packet types tha

RE: ospf database size - affects that underlying transport mtu might have

2017-11-27 Thread Richard Vander Reyden via NANOG
Anyone ever experienced anything strange with underlying transport network > mtu possibly causing ospf neighbor adjacency to be broken ? I'm asking if > the underlying 3rd party transport layer 2 network >has a smaller mtu than the endpoint ospf ip interface have, could this cause >thos

Re: ospf database size - affects that underlying transport mtu might have

2017-11-22 Thread Jay Hennigan
transport network mtu possibly causing ospf neighbor adjacency to be broken ? > I'm asking if the underlying 3rd party transport layer 2 network has a smaller mtu than the endpoint ospf ip interface have, could this cause those ospf neighbors to not fully establish ? Yes. Easy to check wit

ospf database size - affects that underlying transport mtu might have

2017-11-22 Thread Aaron Gould
This is a *single area* ospf environment, that has been stable for years.. But now suddenly is having issues with new ospf neightbor adjacencies , which are riding a 3rd party transport network Anyone ever experienced anything strange with underlying transport network mtu possibly causing

BGP & MTU

2016-07-23 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > > On 2016-07-22 15:57, William Herrin wrote: >> On a link containing only routers, you can safely increase the MTU to >> any mutually agreed value with these caveats: > > What I noticed a few years ago was th

Re: MTU

2016-07-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/Jul/16 13:32, Tore Anderson wrote: > > That said, I've never tried extending our MPLS backbone outside of > our own administrative domain or autonomous system. That sounds like a > really scary prospect to me, but I'll admit I've never given serious > consideration to such an arrangement b

Re: MTU

2016-07-23 Thread Tore Anderson
* Baldur Norddahl > I did not say we were doing internet peering... Uhm. When you say that you peer with another ISP (and keep in mind what the "I" in ISP stands for), while giving no further details, then folks are going to assume that you're talking about a standard eBGP peering with inet/inet6

Re: MTU

2016-07-23 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On 23 July 2016 at 10:28, Tore Anderson wrote: > * Baldur Norddahl > > > What is best practice regarding choosing MTU on transit links? > > > > Until now we have used the default of 1500 bytes. I now have a > > project were we peer directly with another small ISP. H

Re: MTU

2016-07-23 Thread Tore Anderson
* Baldur Norddahl > What is best practice regarding choosing MTU on transit links? > > Until now we have used the default of 1500 bytes. I now have a > project were we peer directly with another small ISP. However we need > a backup so we figured a GRE tunnel on a common IP

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 22/Jul/16 19:37, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > > > What I noticed a few years ago was that BGP convergence time was > faster with higher MTU. > Full BGP table load took twice less time on MTU 9192 than on 1500. > Of course BGP has to be allowed to use higher MTU. > &

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Lee
On 7/22/16, Phil Rosenthal wrote: > >> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka >> wrote: >> What I noticed a few years ago was that BGP convergence time was faster >> with higher MTU. >> Full BGP table load took twice less time on MTU 9192 than on 1500. &

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 2016-07-22 20:20, Phil Rosenthal wrote: On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: What I noticed a few years ago was that BGP convergence time was faster with higher MTU. Full BGP table load took twice less time on MTU 9192 than on 1500. Of course BGP has to be allowed to use

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
> On 22 Jul 2016, at 19:37, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > >> On 2016-07-22 15:57, William Herrin wrote: >> On a link containing only routers, you can safely increase the MTU to >> any mutually agreed value with these caveats: > > What I noticed a few years ago was

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Phil Rosenthal
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > What I noticed a few years ago was that BGP convergence time was faster with > higher MTU. > Full BGP table load took twice less time on MTU 9192 than on 1500. > Of course BGP has to be allowed to use higher MTU. &

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 2016-07-22 15:57, William Herrin wrote: On a link containing only routers, you can safely increase the MTU to any mutually agreed value with these caveats: What I noticed a few years ago was that BGP convergence time was faster with higher MTU. Full BGP table load took twice less time on

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Saad Abdullah
Worth reading this on choosing MTU on transit link. http://blog.apnic.net/2014/12/15/ip-mtu-and-tcp-mss-missmatch-an-evil-for-network-performance/ -Sad >> >> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Baldur Norddahl < >> baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >&g

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Chris Kane
imple enough. I've only experienced one situation for which the MTU must match and that is on OSPF neighbor relationships, for which John T. Moy's book (OSPF - Anatomy of an Internet Routing Protocol) clearly explains why MTU became an issue during development of that protocol. As more and mo

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Vincent Bernat
t; avoid the troubles you get by having an effective MTU smaller than 1500 > inside the tunnel, so the IP transit carrier agreed to configure a MTU of > 9216. > > Obviously I only need to increase my MTU by the size of the GRE header. But > I am thinking is there any reason not to go all

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Fri 2016-Jul-22 14:01:36 +0200, Baldur Norddahl wrote: Hi What is best practice regarding choosing MTU on transit links? Until now we have used the default of 1500 bytes. I now have a project were we peer directly with another small ISP. However we need a backup so we figured a GRE

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 22/Jul/16 15:42, Chris Kane wrote: > > My experience has been making a view phone calls and agreeing on 9,000 > is simple enough. I've only experienced one situation for which the > MTU must match and that is on OSPF neighbor relationships, for which > John T. Moy'

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > What is best practice regarding choosing MTU on transit links? Hi Baldur, On a link containing only routers, you can safely increase the MTU to any mutually agreed value with these caveats: 1. Not all equipment behaves well with la

Re: MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 22/Jul/16 14:01, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > > Obviously I only need to increase my MTU by the size of the GRE header. But > I am thinking is there any reason not to go all in and ask every peer to go > to whatever max MTU they can support? My own equipment will do MTU of 9600 >

MTU

2016-07-22 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hi What is best practice regarding choosing MTU on transit links? Until now we have used the default of 1500 bytes. I now have a project were we peer directly with another small ISP. However we need a backup so we figured a GRE tunnel on a common IP transit carrier would work. We want to avoid

Re: [Discussion] MTU mismatch and impact of data-plane traffic

2015-10-27 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
the MTU values configured in the following order; PE's egress interface to P1, P1 ingress interface, P1 egress interface, P2 ingress, P2 egress and eventually GW ingress. Q1: What do you think would be the impact in terms of data-plane traffic (HTTP/s browsing, Video streaming etc), trave

[Discussion] MTU mismatch and impact of data-plane traffic

2015-10-27 Thread Mohamed Kamal
Suppose you have the below network topology, where PE is connected to P1, P1 is connected to P2 and P2 is connected to GW, all through 1G links. [PE]-15001500-[P1]-16001600-[P2]-15001600-[GW] The numbers represent the MTU values configured in the

[Discussion] MTU mismatch and impact of data-plane traffic

2015-10-26 Thread Mohamed Kamal
Suppose you have the below network topology, where PE is connected to P1, P1 is connected to P2 and P2 is connected to GW, all through 1G links. [PE]-15001500-[P1]-16001600-[P2]-15001600-[GW] The numbers represent the MTU values configured in the following

Fwd: [v6ops] IPv6 MTU Flow-label.... (related to draft-v6ops-pmtud-ecmp-problem-01)

2014-11-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
MTU Flow-label (related to draft-v6ops-pmtud-ecmp-problem-01) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:31:52 +0100 From: Jeroen Massar Organization: Massar To: i...@ietf.org, v6...@ietf.org Hola folks (and folks in BCC ;), With the recent Google and Akamai outages (latter still ongoing afaik), it came to

MTU Problem on Cisco 7606

2014-03-10 Thread Shahab Vahabzadeh
Hi everybody, I have change my core router from 7206 VXR to 7606 with RSP720 since last 1 month. I had GRE Tunnel in 7206 with one of my regions with this config: interface Tunnel1 > ip mtu 1500 > ip policy route-map clear-df I have copy this config to new 7606 with the same config but

Re: MTU issues s0.wp.com

2012-11-08 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
reach wp.com content over >> IPv6. >> >> IPv4 content does work fine, using the IPv6 literal returns a 404 which is >> small enough to fit in a smaller 1480 byte MTU. >> >> I have another test site that has a clean 1500 byte mtu and I can fetch the >> s0.wp.c

Re: MTU issues s0.wp.com

2012-11-07 Thread Brian Keefer
On Nov 6, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Seth Mos wrote: > Hi, > > Since about a week or so it's become impossible to reach wp.com content over > IPv6. > > IPv4 content does work fine, using the IPv6 literal returns a 404 which is > small enough to fit in a smaller 1480 byte MTU

Re: MTU issues s0.wp.com

2012-11-06 Thread Matthew Luckie
> Since about a week or so it's become impossible to reach wp.com content > over IPv6. > > IPv4 content does work fine, using the IPv6 literal returns a 404 which > is small enough to fit in a smaller 1480 byte MTU. > > I have another test site that has a clean 150

Re: MTU issues s0.wp.com

2012-11-06 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2012-11-06 13:33, Seth Mos wrote: > Hi, > > Since about a week or so it's become impossible to reach wp.com content > over IPv6. > > IPv4 content does work fine, using the IPv6 literal returns a 404 which > is small enough to fit in a smaller 1480 byte MTU. > &g

Re: MTU issues s0.wp.com

2012-11-06 Thread sthaug
> Is anyone else experiencing similar issues? Not from here (AS 2116, Norway). No problem getting up the web page, tcpdump shows MSS 1440. > My traceroute shows they are employing a CDN for s0.wp.com, so not > everyone might be affected. > > 7 asd2-rou-1022.NL.eurorings.net (2001:680:0:800f:

Re: MTU issues s0.wp.com

2012-11-06 Thread Timothy Morizot
On Nov 6, 2012 6:35 AM, "Seth Mos" wrote: > > Hi, > > Since about a week or so it's become impossible to reach wp.com content over IPv6. [snip] > It looks like tunneled IPv6 users might be in hurt here. > > Is anyone else experiencing similar issues? I've definitely had problems from my home netw

MTU issues s0.wp.com

2012-11-06 Thread Seth Mos
Hi, Since about a week or so it's become impossible to reach wp.com content over IPv6. IPv4 content does work fine, using the IPv6 literal returns a 404 which is small enough to fit in a smaller 1480 byte MTU. I have another test site that has a clean 1500 byte mtu and I can fetch t

RE: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-30 Thread Templin, Fred L
Hi Chris, > -Original Message- > From: Chris Woodfield [mailto:rek...@semihuman.com] > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 4:40 PM > To: Templin, Fred L > Cc: William Herrin; Ray Soucy; NANOG list > Subject: Re: IP tunnel MTU > > True, but it could be used as an alt

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-30 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2012-10-30 11:19, Sander Steffann wrote: > Hi, > Certainly fixing all the buggy host stacks, firewall and compliance devices to realize that ICMP isn't bad won't be hard. >>> >>> Wait till you get started on "fixing" the "security" consultants. >> >> Ack. I've yet to come across a *

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-30 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, >>> Certainly fixing all the buggy host stacks, firewall and compliance devices >>> to realize that ICMP isn't bad won't be hard. >> >> Wait till you get started on "fixing" the "security" consultants. > > Ack. I've yet to come across a *device* that doesn't deal properly with > "packet t

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Franklin
>> Certainly fixing all the buggy host stacks, firewall and compliance devices >> to realize that ICMP isn't bad won't be hard. > > Wait till you get started on "fixing" the "security" consultants. Ack. I've yet to come across a *device* that doesn't deal properly with "packet too big". Lots (

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Masataka Ohta
points may send packets a little larger than 1280B, which means physical link MTU of 1500B or a little smaller than that is enough for nested tunnels. Thus, no new tunneling protocol is necessary. The harder part of the job is to disable PMTUD on all the IPv6 implementations. > I have also heard

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Chris Woodfield
gmentation. > > That is in fact what SEAL is doing, but there is no guarantee > that the size of the largest fragment is going to be an accurate > reflection of the true path MTU. RFC1812 made sure of that when > it more or less gave IPv4 routers permission to fragment packets >

RE: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Templin, Fred L
, but there is no guarantee that the size of the largest fragment is going to be an accurate reflection of the true path MTU. RFC1812 made sure of that when it more or less gave IPv4 routers permission to fragment packets pretty much any way they want. Thanks - Fred fred.l.temp...@boeing.com

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Ray Soucy wrote: > The core issue here is TCP MSS. PMTUD is a dynamic process for > adjusting MSS, but requires that ICMP be permitted to negotiate the > connection. The realistic alternative, in a world that filters all > ICMP traffic, is to manually rewrite the

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Joe Maimon
bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: you mean its safe to turn off the VPNs? /bill Quite the reverse. Joe so its tunnels all the way down... maybe we should just go back to a circuit oriented network, eh? /bill Its not safe to turn on VPNs. Joe

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 04:44:40PM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 03:46:57PM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote: > >> > >> > >>Templin, Fred L wrote: > >> > >>>Yes; I was aware of

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Joe Maimon
Jared Mauch wrote: ICMP is just not the way it is ever going to work. I wish you luck in getting your host IP stacks to work properly without ICMP, especially as you deploy IPv6. - Jared Precisely the state we are in. Looking for luck. Joe

RE: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Templin, Fred L
> I wish you luck in getting your host IP stacks to work properly without > ICMP, especially as you deploy IPv6. >From what I've heard, ICMPv6 is already being filtered, including PTBs. I have also heard that IPv6 fragments are also being dropped unconditionally along some paths. So, if neither IC

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Jared Mauch
On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > Jared Mauch wrote: >> >> On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Templin, Fred L wrote: >>> >>>> Yes; I was aware of

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Joe Maimon
bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 03:46:57PM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote: Templin, Fred L wrote: Yes; I was aware of this. But, what I want to get to is setting the tunnel MTU to infinity. Essentially, its time the network matured to the point where inter

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Joe Maimon
Jared Mauch wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: Templin, Fred L wrote: Yes; I was aware of this. But, what I want to get to is setting the tunnel MTU to infinity. Essentially, its time the network matured to the point where inter-networking actually works (again

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 03:46:57PM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > Templin, Fred L wrote: > > >Yes; I was aware of this. But, what I want to get to is > >setting the tunnel MTU to infinity. > > > Essentially, its time the network matured to the point where

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Tim Durack
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: > >> >> >> Templin, Fred L wrote: >> >>> Yes; I was aware of this. But, what I want to get to is >>> setting the tunnel MTU to infinity. &g

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Jared Mauch
On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > Templin, Fred L wrote: > >> Yes; I was aware of this. But, what I want to get to is >> setting the tunnel MTU to infinity. > > > Essentially, its time the network matured to the point where inter-ne

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Joe Maimon
Templin, Fred L wrote: Yes; I was aware of this. But, what I want to get to is setting the tunnel MTU to infinity. Essentially, its time the network matured to the point where inter-networking actually works (again), seamlessly. I agree. Joe

Re: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-29 Thread Shahab Vahabzadeh
Hi there, I have the same problem in my network, I have GRE tunnel for transfering users real internet traffic, they have problems with browsing websites like yahoo.com or microsoft.com. I had to set ip mtu 1500 to solve it, and it occurs fragmantation... Thanks On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:47 PM

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