Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-22 Thread Steven Champeon
Sorry for the delay; I've been traveling and neglecting my lists. on Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. I study PTR naming

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-16 Thread gordon b slater
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 18:51 -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: but they just don't realize how many there are. wow, deja-vu ! A few years ago I went into a large SSI infrastructure undergoing reconfiguration where the cluster nodes were named along the lines of biscuits, pizzas, vegetables,

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-16 Thread Jens Link
Bill Stewart nonobvi...@gmail.com writes: - Tolkien characters (one of the reasons for DNS was that too many people wanted to name their machine frodo or mozart.) Diskworld characters are also quite common. For my own systems I use names of single malts. cheers Je 'typing on Bowmore' ns --

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-16 Thread Jorge Amodio
Access network primarily CLLI codes of the building where the POP is located or closest serving CO, backbone three letter airport codes and in some cases CLLI codes. During the transition form JvNCNet to VERIO/NTT we had some CNAMES to the old network names where things at for example

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-16 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2010/3/13 Paul Stewart pstew...@nexicomgroup.net Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. Today, we use the following example: Core1-rtr-to-ge1-1-1-vl20.nexicom.net Core

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-16 Thread Erik Soosalu
by function (monitor, sql, etc). Thanks, Erik -Original Message- From: Pierre-Yves Maunier [mailto:na...@maunier.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:16 AM To: Paul Stewart Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions 2010/3/13 Paul Stewart pstew...@nexicomgroup.net Hi Folks

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-16 Thread John Kristoff
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:47:28 -0500 Paul Stewart pstew...@nexicomgroup.net wrote: Going forward, I'd like to examine a better method to identify the devices does anyone have published standards on what they use or that of other networks and maybe even why they chose those methods? Bottom

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Paul Stewart
I have yet to see a core router named Luke or Bart... ;) -Original Message- From: Joe Greco [mailto:jgr...@ns.sol.net] Sent: March-14-10 11:11 PM To: Rubens Kuhl Cc: Paul Stewart; NANOG list Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Paul Stewart pstew

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread James Jones
It was a small network. On 3/13/10 2:58 PM, Randy Bush wrote: On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. scaled well?

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Adcock, Matt [HISNA]
paper, ink and millions of trees   From: Ravi Pina [mailto:r...@cow.org] Sent: Sat 3/13/2010 3:33 PM To: Randy Bush Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 04:58:11AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Greg Whynott
Subject: RE: Network Naming Conventions I've used a Jimmy Buffett theme in test labs before.    Matt Adcock, Manager 334-481-6629 (w) / 334-312-5393 (m) / madc...@hisna.com 700 Hyundai Blvd. / Montgomery, AL 36105 P The average office worker uses 10,000 sheets of paper = 1.2 trees, per year

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Nice, I've used mountains (Denali, Everest, Olympus, etc) in the past to name systems. Used profanity for awhile to name machines, there's really quite a bit of it, and every language has it's own set, giving a large pool to choose from. Sadly, when outages occurred, it was somewhat difficult to

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Joel Esler
Being in the IDS business mostly involved with Snort, I've given my sensors pig names in the past. Wilbur, Arnold, Lechoncito On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: Nice, I've used mountains (Denali, Everest, Olympus, etc) in the past to name systems. Used profanity for

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Nathan Ward
On 16/03/2010, at 2:10 AM, Adcock, Matt [HISNA] wrote: I've used a Jimmy Buffett theme in test labs before. Naming themes are fine in test labs, because devices have a different function/role several times per day, a name acts like an asset tag in that it sticks with it through its lifetime.

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Greg Whynott
ours is a small network, so is ok to have fun. 8) we do use CNAMES to provide useful information(and make managers happy).. and name servers after the service the provide, eg ldap1.auth.mgt here is an example: gwhyn...@ops:~$ host rma.mgt rma.mgt.oicr.on.ca is an alias for

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Frank A. Coluccio
@nanog.org Subject: RE: Network Naming Conventions Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:10:40 -0700 I've used a Jimmy Buffett theme in test labs before.    Matt Adcock, Manager 334-481-6629 (w) / 334-312-5393 (m) / madc...@hisna.com 700 Hyundai Blvd. / Montgomery, AL 36105 P The average office worker uses

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc)
I used to use dead presidents to name devices. Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, etc. Humorous yet patriotic. Marc

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) wrote: I used to use dead presidents to name devices. Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, etc. Humorous yet patriotic. We used to use deceased musicians. Popular (i.e., rock) for Linux servers. Classical musicians for everything

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread R.A. Hettinga
For Shipwright.com, it's Donald McKay's ships http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_McKay and famous clippers (shortened) (Flying) cloud, (Neptune's) car, cet, then Jack Aubrey's commands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Aubrey (sophie, surprise...), and, finally, the names of various sentient

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Malte von dem Hagen
Hi there, we brainstormed alot about this topic some time ago, following some conclusions: - anything trademarked might be a problem (so Zoidberg might be cool for a router, but I couldn't take a router named Zapp for serious, and Farnsworth is going mad would be considered as normal

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Greg Whynott wrote: We use confidence inspiring names here for our devices, shakey, broken, jitter, crusty Ah, try endangered plants/animals :) Antonio Querubin 808-545-5282 x3003 e-mail/xmpp: t...@lava.net

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Bill Stewart
- Beers (the main server got to be anchor, which made our ex-Navy boss happy and seemed more professional than some others - Mountains, mostly volcanic - Psychoactive chemicals (the database is on speed, the development project's on prozac...) - Friends at Princeton used quarks (Up is down today.)

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-15 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Sub-atomic particles. Some people say there are not enough, but they just don't realize how many there are. Plus you can expand into elements, then compounds. -- TTFN, patrick

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-14 Thread William Yardley
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: Going forward, I'd like to examine a better method to identify the devices does anyone have published standards on what they use or that of other networks and maybe even why they chose those methods? Looked through the thread

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Paul Stewart pstew...@nexicomgroup.net wrote: Yeah, just learning that... got a *tonne* of offline replies. Planets won't work well, simpson characters we'll run out very quickly umm.. forgot the rest.  We were looking for something that makes sense to the

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-14 Thread Tom Wright
I agree - this convention is easy to type/understand/automate. Makes it easy to AXFR and see which devices are in a pop. We throw a bit of Perl at our device configs to create RR's for each device (imagine doing it manually... blergh). KISS :) -- Tom On 14/03/2010, at 5:23 AM, ck wrote: i

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-14 Thread Joe Greco
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Paul Stewart pstew...@nexicomgroup.net wrote: Yeah, just learning that... got a *tonne* of offline replies. Planets won't work well, simpson characters we'll run out very quickly umm.. forgot the rest.  We were looking for something that makes

Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. Today, we use the following example: Core1-rtr-to-ge1-1-1-vl20.nexicom.net Core box #1, rtr=router, to=location, ge1-1-1=interface,

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread James Jones
On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. On 3/13/10 10:47 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. Today, we use the following

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread virendra rode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul, If my memory serves me correct, Richard presented traceroute presto at nanog47 that covered location identifiers. HTH, regards, /virendra Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread James Bensley
On 13 March 2010 16:06, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. We use ancient Greek gods. -- Regards, James ;)

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Tim Sanderson
...Types of coffee and donuts Tim -Original Message- From: James Bensley [mailto:jwbens...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:27 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions On 13 March 2010 16:06, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: On my last network I

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread aaron
STD's --Original Message-- From: Tim Sanderson To: NANOG list Subject: RE: Network Naming Conventions Sent: Mar 13, 2010 12:12 PM ...Types of coffee and donuts Tim -Original Message- From: James Bensley [mailto:jwbens...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:27 PM

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
Singers: tenchi% ping elvis elvis is alive tenchi% On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, aa...@wholesaleinternet.net wrote: STD's --Original Message-- From: Tim Sanderson To: NANOG list Subject: RE: Network Naming Conventions Sent: Mar 13, 2010 12:12 PM ...Types of coffee and donuts Tim

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread bmanning
islands rivers/creeks types of swords fruit minerals fermented things 3char strings punctuation marks twins ... --bill On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread ck
i believe in keeping host names as short as possible, so to start, i wouldn't put the location in the hostname, but putting the loc/pop code in dns (eg: sjc1.nexicom, tor1.nexicom, iad1.nexicom, etc), same goes for rtr, you really dont need that, imo personally, i prefer the shortest possible

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Ravi Pina
Heh. Host naming discussions is like religion and politics at parties. It only leads to someone going home crying, red wine spilled all over their new dress, and a black eye. Not in that order. -r On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Paul Stewart wrote: With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. Today, we use the following example: Core1-rtr-to-ge1-1-1-vl20.nexicom.net Core box #1, rtr=router, to=location,

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Bryan Fields
On 3/13/2010 10:47, Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. I favor using CLLI code (well fake ones) TAMQFLTART1 is in the city of tampa (TAMQ) in FLorida at

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Randy Bush
On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. scaled well?

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Erik L
On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. scaled well? He wrote last instead of current...make your own conclusions ;)

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Roy
On 3/13/2010 10:12 AM, Tim Sanderson wrote: ...Types of coffee and donuts Tim -Original Message- From: James Bensley [mailto:jwbens...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:27 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions On 13 March 2010 16:06, James Jonesja

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Barry Shein
On March 13, 2010 at 18:24 aa...@wholesaleinternet.net (aa...@wholesaleinternet.net) wrote: STD's hmm, since we actually are STD.COM that could be a useful idea... -b

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Barry Shein
On March 13, 2010 at 10:53 c...@sandcastl.es (ck) wrote: i believe in keeping host names as short as possible, so to start, i At BU we brought down about 1/3 of the internet (no joke!) around 1985 when our very first host table entries to SRI-NIC contained single letter hosts (like a.bu.edu)

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded - game me more to think about than I thought was possible ;) Paul The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Paul Stewart
of the suggestions around kinda what we have today but with some changes are what'll we'll debate internally. Take care, Paul -Original Message- From: Ravi Pina [mailto:r...@cow.org] Sent: March-13-10 2:01 PM To: Paul Stewart Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions Heh

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Ravi Pina
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 04:58:11AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. scaled well? Don't forget there were 5 Snowballs...

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: Open ended questions obviously - looking for many ideas. I think a key question to ask yourself is who needs to be able to interpret your names? Depending on your business, customers, engineers, etc you may have