Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

It appears that Michael Thomas said: > >On 6/26/23 6:06 PM, Ron Yokubaitis wrote: >> Dalles: government subsidized Hydroelectric Power, that’s why. > >Well that maybe, but electric rates are hella cheap in Oregon regardless. Well, yeah, that's what he said although I would argue about the

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

Dalles: government subsidized Hydroelectric Power, that’s why. Sent from the iPad of Ron Yokubaitis > On Jun 26, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > >  >> On 6/24/23 5:28 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> On Jun 23, 2023, at 18:04, Michael Thomas wrote: >>> >>>  On 6/23/23 4:01

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On 6/26/23 6:06 PM, Ron Yokubaitis wrote: Dalles: government subsidized Hydroelectric Power, that’s why. Well that maybe, but electric rates are hella cheap in Oregon regardless. Mike Sent from the iPad of Ron Yokubaitis On Jun 26, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:  On

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On 6/24/23 5:28 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Jun 23, 2023, at 18:04, Michael Thomas wrote:  On 6/23/23 4:01 PM, Delong.com via NANOG wrote: The electric grid complaints are about the demand on the grid making the entire region less stable and proposed construction of new high-voltage tower

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 3:02 PM Hal Murray wrote: > Why are gensets loud? They're high power internal combustion engines. Explosions are loud. > If I wanted a less noisy one, could I get it? Yes. If you run the engine at 3600 rpm to get 60 hertz ac power, it's a lot "louder" than if you run

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

> Even traditional data centers have not been known to be especially > considerate about scheduling their -loud- genset tests. Doesn't matter so > much in the middle of an industrial zone but when you do it near where people > live you're going to make them angry. Why are gensets loud? Is

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

> On Jun 23, 2023, at 18:04, Michael Thomas wrote: > >  >> On 6/23/23 4:01 PM, Delong.com via NANOG wrote: >> The electric grid complaints are about the demand on the grid making the >> entire region less stable and proposed construction of new high-voltage >> tower corridors for data

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On 6/23/23 4:01 PM, Delong.com via NANOG wrote: The electric grid complaints are about the demand on the grid making the entire region less stable and proposed construction of new high-voltage tower corridors for data centers. Yeah, I can kind of understand those, but as long as the grid is

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023, Delong.com wrote: Northern Virginia has about 275 data centers There’s probably close to that number in the South Bay Area of California as well. California is well-known for its state enviromental laws and zoning, so some of the issues with the 'wild-west' zoning of

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

> On Jun 23, 2023, at 15:17, Sean Donelan wrote: > > > Northern Virginia has about 275 data centers There’s probably close to that number in the South Bay Area of California as well. > The noise complaints are about HVAC fan noise (24-hour droning) from cooling > towers or roof top farms

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

I will note that the grid in Loudoun county (arguably the center of the Northern Virginia data center boom) has actually gotten a LOT better than it was when I first moved here.  Some of that was rebuild started before the surge, due to just how bad it was.  But I am fairly sure that some of

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

Northern Virginia has about 275 data centers The noise complaints are about HVAC fan noise (24-hour droning) from cooling towers or roof top farms of evaporative condensers. The water complaints are about the one-use water cooling towers The electric grid complaints are about the demand on

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:36 PM Delong.com wrote: > > > > On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:19, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:16 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > > > I view throwing everything into NOVA as being lazy. Throwing so many at one > place isn't good for resiliency. > > >

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 3:57 PM William Herrin wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:19 PM Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > The discussions in local news (in nova) seem to center around: > > "but the noise!" > > > > i'm sure it'll work out in the end, but ... gonna be fun to watch. > > There is

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

> On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:19, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:16 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: >> >> I view throwing everything into NOVA as being lazy. Throwing so many at one >> place isn't good for resiliency. > > there's nyc and chicago and

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:19 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > The discussions in local news (in nova) seem to center around: > "but the noise!" > > i'm sure it'll work out in the end, but ... gonna be fun to watch. There is apparently a problem in nearby West Virginia where someone built a

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atch. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > > From: "Sean Donelan" > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 20

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 3:02:20 PM Subject: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers Backlash to data centers prompts political upset in northern Virginia By MATTHEW BARAKAT https://apnews.com/article/virginia-election-data-centers-prin

Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

Backlash to data centers prompts political upset in northern Virginia By MATTHEW BARAKAT https://apnews.com/article/virginia-election-data-centers-prince-william-229cb44d34ccf4bd1cc4e9f0d0131649 FALLS CHURCH, Va. (AP) — The tech industry’s drive to dot the Virginia landscape with data centers