Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread Michael Holstein
We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up at 620mm. A 24 door? .. dang, that's tiny. Did someone mix up OD and ID when considering what a 19 rack meant? 1) Have you ever had to fit a cabinet through a doorway that's too small? Yes. I will say up

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Michael Holstein michael.holst...@csuohio.edu wrote: We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up at 620mm. A 24 door? .. dang, that's tiny. Did someone mix up OD and ID when considering what a 19 rack meant? 1) Have you

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread Randy Carpenter
- Original Message - If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-po= st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-pos= t rack will not fit. Why? With *any* rack, there are always scenarios where the rack rails for

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread Joe Greco
If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-po= st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-pos= t rack will not fit. Why? With *any* rack, there are always scenarios where the rack rails for some random item don't

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: I guess that could be.  My own experience in the last few years is that it hasn't been a problem.  An old Cisco AccessPath rack I use here in the shop for testing took several HP DLnnn servers with the HP rails no problem; it's

OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Lusby
Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some tips/experience! ;) We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide. We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up at

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Tom Hill
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 09:43 +0100, Robert Lusby wrote: Can you see where this is leading yet? Is there no other entrance that's wider, perhaps a window/skylight? Cutting-up a cabinet (only to find that it's pretty impossible to make it sturdy again) or demolishing the wall may well be more

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Lusby
Not a silly question my fault for not making clear - cabinet is still outside the room ... yet to go in. And, no other entrance points. Room is below ground level, with a stupidly narrow door frame. Old client building, with a room not originally designed for purpose. Short of scrapping this

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Roland Perry
In article BANLkTin4qhFifiTeFcnZ+EU_02-h=wd...@mail.gmail.com, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com writes 1) Have you ever had to fit a cabinet through a doorway that's too small? Yes, but it was height not width 2) How did you do it? Cut cabinet, demolish wall ...? by taking the fan tray off

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Roland Perry
In article banlktin1qsuj_knoamc4n+yame0odz3...@mail.gmail.com, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com writes Short of scrapping this cabinet If you have no other use for it - sell on eBay! That's where my spare cabinet went last year. -- Roland Perry

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:43:53 +0100 Subject: OT: Server Cabinet From: Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some tips/experience! ;) We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the bare-bones chassis

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Joe Greco
Can you see where this is leading yet? Three obvious questions: 1) Have you ever had to fit a cabinet through a doorway that's too small? 2) How did you do it? Cut cabinet, demolish wall ...? 3) If you cut the cabinet, any tips? Comment: you need to recognize that you are 'making

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Dorn Hetzel
It's admittedly far from ideal in some ways, but a great way to deal with this sort of situation can be to get a pair of two-post open frame relay racks; most of them bolt together and can be put just about anywhere. Many times we forget that these can be used as the front and back of a

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Randy Carpenter
If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-post racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-post rack will not fit. Get an open-frame 4-post rack. It will come unassembled. It will also likely be no more costly that 2 2-post racks.

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Joe Greco wrote: Good comments so far. I didn't see this one though: It's admittedly far from ideal in some ways, but a great way to deal with this sort of situation can be to get a pair of two-post open frame relay racks; most of them bolt together and can be put just

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote: We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide. We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up at 620mm. Hi Rob, My

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Joe Greco
If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-po= st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-pos= t rack will not fit. Why? With *any* rack, there are always scenarios where the rack rails for some random item don't end up fitting

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:09:33AM +0100, Robert Lusby wrote: And, no other entrance points. Room is below ground level, with a stupidly narrow door frame. Old client building, with a room not originally designed for purpose. I think folks can help you find a bolt

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net said: Now of course we have no idea what's going to be mounted in this, but it's an HP rack so I assume maybe HP servers, which tend towards the heavy. One thing about using a 2-post rack for servers that can be a problem is that most 2-post racks

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Joe Greco
Once upon a time, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net said: Now of course we have no idea what's going to be mounted in this, but it's an HP rack so I assume maybe HP servers, which tend towards the heavy. One thing about using a 2-post rack for servers that can be a problem is that most 2-post

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jameel Akari
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Joe Greco wrote: If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-po= st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-pos= t rack will not fit. Possibly, though you can usually order universal rails to fit tapped-hole

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Chaim Rieger
Do you have any kids ? If yes ask them to do it, leave and come back a few hours later

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jason Baugher
On 5/4/2011 10:07 AM, Chaim Rieger wrote: Do you have any kids ? If yes ask them to do it, leave and come back a few hours later At last, a helpful answer! Seriously, disregarding all the helpful comments from everyone questioning your judgment in trying to move a large cabinet through a

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Chaim Rieger chaim.rie...@gmail.com Do you have any kids ? If yes ask them to do it, leave and come back a few hours later And the Webby for Best Short Answer to a NANOG Question goes ... to. What's your 5 word acceptance speech, Chaim? Cheers, -- jra

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 4 May 2011 04:43, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some tips/experience! ;) We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide. We have a