RE: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-14 Thread Tony Hain
broad patent on IPv6? Nah what you describe is a different invention. Someone probably already has a patent on that. The browser will do a DNS lookup on slashdot.org and then cache that - forever (or until you restart the browser). Yes it will ignore the TTL (apps don't get the TTL at all, so

Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Joe Klein
I was recently reading a few IPv6 patent, and happened upon on developed by Wesley E. George, Time Warner Cable Inc. on the topic of Use of dns information as trigger for dynamic ipv4 address allocation. It seems to impact the allocation of the IPv4 IPv6 address for the gateway router,

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Joe Klein
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130254423 Sorry missed the link. Joe Klein Inveniam viam aut faciam On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Joe Klein jskl...@gmail.com wrote: I was recently reading a few IPv6 patent, and happened upon on developed by Wesley E. George, Time Warner Cable Inc.

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Baldur Norddahl
No 99% of the text is noise. Read the claims and notice the limitations: the patent is about a CPE with IPv6 without IPv4 that somehow acquires IPv4 as soon something does a DNS lookup that results in a reply without . It is a stupid idea if you ask me, so the patent is worthless. Regards,

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, It is a stupid idea if you ask me, ..and thus, based on most of the current technology patents out there, perfectly patentable. dont worry, the rest of the internet will probably need something like this in the future... and whats happened here is some coffee-room tech chat or water

Fwd: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Nah what you describe is a different invention. Someone probably already has a patent on that. The browser will do a DNS lookup on slashdot.org and then cache that - forever (or until you restart the browser). Yes it will ignore the TTL (apps don't get the TTL at all, so apps don't know). Same

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Shane Ronan
This is actually a good idea. Roll out an IPV6 only network and only pass out an IPV4 address if it's needed based on actual traffic. On Jul 13, 2015 11:27 AM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: In article CAP032TteiL3=k= vs-kedgu276fwgxqn1j9jmorlq8sw4xpe...@mail.gmail.com you write:

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Blake Dunlap
The point is you'd already have a 192 address or something, and it would only grab the external address for a short duration for use as an external PAT address, thus oversubscribing the ip4 pool to users who need it (based on dns). Its still pretty broken, but less broken than you describe. On

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Mel Beckman
Balder, That may well be the subject of one of the other patents. Also, there is no requirement under US patent law to build a prototype. It just has to be possible for one usually skilled in the art to construct one from the content of the patent. Also, most patents are not for a complete

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread John Levine
In article CAP032TteiL3=k=vs-kedgu276fwgxqn1j9jmorlq8sw4xpe...@mail.gmail.com you write: http://www.google.com/patents/US20130254423 This is not a patent. It is a patent application. Most applications do not turn into patents, or at least not with all of the claims included. If you look at

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Too bad it won't actually work. I type Slashdot.org in my browser. The web browser does DNS lookup. The CPE notices there is only an A record available and boots the IPv4 stack. However there is no way to push an IPv4 configuration to my computer. DHCP is pull not push. Even if there was, the web

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, This is actually a good idea. Roll out an IPV6 only network and only pass out an IPV4 address if it's needed based on actual traffic. yes...shame someones applied for a patent on that! ;-) alan

Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6?

2015-07-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Baldur Norddahl baldur.nordd...@gmail.com To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 10:54:49 AM Subject: Re: Overlay broad patent on IPv6? Too bad it won't