Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Nov/15 06:02, Yury Shefer wrote: > My team mate was traveling to China with his Nexus 6 (with Project Fi > SIM-card) and was able to access Google services. The phone uses roaming > data to access Google and your phone gets IP assigned by your home mobile > network packet gateway (P-GW).

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Nov/15 05:08, Jared Geiger wrote: > When you roam onto another cellular network other than your home network, > your data is encapsulated and sent back to your home network before going > out to the internet. This is to provide a seamless experience for the > customer. I always felt it

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-16 Thread Yury Shefer
e Team Member > 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 > Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com > > > > From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Jared Geiger < > ja...@compuwizz.net> > Sent:

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-15 Thread Todd Underwood
Why not both? So sad when you have to choose a single oppressive regime to track your internet use. T On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 09:04 Brandon Butterworth wrote: > > This is what roaming data means, Your data packet is simply trunked to > > your original operator to process.

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-15 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> This is what roaming data means, Your data packet is simply trunked to > your original operator to process. So you will be having a US ip on > the web. And continuity of US tracking of your use rather than temporary Chinese tracking brandon

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Todd Underwood wrote: > Why not both? So sad when you have to choose a single oppressive regime to > track your internet use. to be fair, probably: o china sees the local mobile and can easily unwrap the probably not encrypted outer packet

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-15 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2015-11-14 23:59, Yucong Sun wrote: > This is what roaming data means, Your data packet is simply trunked to > your original operator to process. So you will be having a US ip on > the web. Based on my understanding, the phone establishes a local IP aconnection with equipment associated with

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-15 Thread Jared Geiger
When you roam onto another cellular network other than your home network, your data is encapsulated and sent back to your home network before going out to the internet. This is to provide a seamless experience for the customer. The network it rides on is the GRX/IPX which is a a worldwide MPLS

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-15 Thread Carlos Alcantar
From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Jared Geiger <ja...@compuwizz.net> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:08 PM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall When you roam onto another cellular network other than your home n

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-14 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2015, at 18:00, Sean Hunter wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I come to you to humbly request your assistance, on or off list. This not > an urgent technical matter, but something I'm rather fascinated by at the > moment. > > While in

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-14 Thread Jake Mertel
I know the service/device uses VPN if you are using "wifi assist" to connect to an open WAP -- it automatically tunnels the traffic so it can't be read by nearby snoopers. Perhaps they employ a similar technology or are using something like PPP to take all of the traffic back to one (or many)

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-14 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 15 Nov 2015, at 9:00, Sean Hunter wrote: While in China recently, I noticed that my Project Fi phone was accessing Google. Accessing, or attempting to access? Were you using a local SIM card, or roaming w/data? What about WiFi? --- Roland Dobbins

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-14 Thread Yucong Sun
This is what roaming data means, Your data packet is simply trunked to your original operator to process. So you will be having a US ip on the web. On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Yury Shefer wrote: > My team mate was traveling to China with his Nexus 6 (with Project Fi >

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-14 Thread Yury Shefer
My team mate was traveling to China with his Nexus 6 (with Project Fi SIM-card) and was able to access Google services. The phone uses roaming data to access Google and your phone gets IP assigned by your home mobile network packet gateway (P-GW). There is no local data break-out. On Sat, Nov 14,

Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-14 Thread Sean Hunter
Hello everyone, I come to you to humbly request your assistance, on or off list. This not an urgent technical matter, but something I'm rather fascinated by at the moment. While in China recently, I noticed that my Project Fi phone was accessing Google. Not only Google, but Facebook, YouTube,

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-14 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 15 Nov 2015, at 11:02, Yury Shefer wrote: The phone uses roaming data to access Google and your phone gets IP assigned by your home mobile network packet gateway (P-GW). This is what I thought, as well - thanks for confirming! --- Roland Dobbins