On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
This assumes that Copyright is the only IP protection out there. There
are actually two distinct realms of IP protection afforded in the US.
Actually, there are four: copyright, patent, trademark and trade
secret. A network
On 2/15/2015 8:57 AM, William Herrin wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
This assumes that Copyright is the only IP protection out there. There
are actually two distinct realms of IP protection afforded in the US.
Actually, there are four: copyright,
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:53:46 -0600, Jack Bates said:
want IP; legal protection). One way around this, most likely, is to
establish your art as public domain (allowing you continued use of the
foundation work, while losing the more specific details associated with
that one project). By doing
On 2/15/2015 09:53, Jack Bates wrote:
Most engineers know when they've crossed the line from trivial/mundane
into creative. It tends to be linked to our pride.
I wish it did not so often be driven by the thought that this may be an
opportunity to game the system for personal gain.
--
The
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nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [OT] Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:43:14 +1100, Ahad Aboss a...@telcoinabox.com
said:
In a sense, you are an artist as network architecture
is an art in itself. It involves interaction with time
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:21:00 +1100, Skeeve Stevens said:
Personally, I don't think so. Sure some awesomely smart engineers designed
this... but did they 'create' anything to do it?
I already cited legislative history that indicates that even things like
phone directories are suitable for
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Skeeve Stevens
ske...@eintellegonetworks.com wrote:
My views are that if artistic endeavour is involved, then it is IP.
Architecture is certainly that... the look... but, the pipes, sewerage,
electricity, door locks... are not. They are products, bought of
Copyright law basically says that if there is any substantive creative input
into a work's creation then the work is not only copyrightable, unless the
author explicitly says different it's also copyrighted. Throw a paint filled
balloon at a canvas and the resulting splatter is copyrighted.
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Skeeve Stevens
ske...@eintellegonetworks.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:55 PM, William Waites wwai...@tardis.ed.ac.uk
wrote:
An engineer or architect in the usual setting, no matter how skilled,
is not doing art because the whole activity is
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:28:25 -0500, William Herrin said:
I have to disagree with you there. This particular ship sailed four decades
ago when CONTU found computer software to be copyrightable and the
subsequent legislation and litigation agreed.
The output of craft is copyrightable even if it
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:25 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
The issue with software wasn't if it was art, but if it was a literary work
(they struggled for a while with the concept of machine-readable versus human
readable).
If catalogs and directories are covered, config files are...
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:36:43 -0500, William Herrin said:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:25 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
If catalogs and directories are covered, config files are... :)
Smells like a Friday challenge for who can produce the most artistic
yet functionally correct Cisco
Thank you for looking up facts, laws, etc... The rest is merely opinion,
and wouldn't necessarily help someone trying to protect their network
designs.
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:25 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:28:25 -0500, William Herrin said:
I have to disagree
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Cc: ske...@eintellegonetworks.com; o...@delong.com; b...@herrin.us;
nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [OT] Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:43:14 +1100, Ahad Aboss a...@telcoinabox.com said:
In a sense, you are an artist as network architecture
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