Re: Bandwidth Savings (Keenan Singh)

2017-02-09 Thread Keenan Singh
Hi Ramy I reached out to FB and they are looking for a min of 5G Traffic coming from your AS to qualify for a Cache. Not sure how they came up with 5G as normally everyone else would ask for 1G Traffic. Can anyone one else confirm, maybe some one from FB is here and can clarify? Keenan On Feb

Re: Bandwidth Savings (Keenan Singh)

2017-02-09 Thread Ramy Hashish
Hello Luke and all, I stumbled upon some news about Facebook edge network servers, does anybody know anything about the caches the FB use and the ISPs can host? and is Facebook a part of SVA alliance? Thanks, Ramy Hi Luke, > > Regarding HTTPS Streaming and Netflix... > > Netflix announced in

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-13 Thread Fearghas Mckay
Keenan > On 11 Jan 2017, at 15:10, Luke Guillory wrote: > > Netflix won’t even begin talks for their cache if you're not doing a minimum > of 5Gbps. Outside of the US I believe it is less based on presentations I have seen in Africa. > They also require massive

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-12 Thread Marty Strong via NANOG
.kuh...@gmail.com> > To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:23:58 PM > Subject: Re: Bandwidth Savings > > The challenges are almost certainly economics related, at the lack of > competition and high costs for layer 1/2

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:23:58 PM Subject: Re: Ba

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Richard Hicks" <richard.hi...@gmail.com> To: "Keenan Singh" <keenansi...@airlinktt.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:55:05 PM Subj

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-12 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:08:45PM -0500, Keenan Singh wrote: > We are currently looking at any way we can save on > Bandwidth or to be more Efficient with the Bandwidth we currently have. Measure what you're doing in as much detail as you can. Slice-and-dice it by source, destination,

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Fletcher Kittredge
The problem with the local cache[s] is the bandwidth cost of populating the cache and keeping it coherent can be greater than the bandwidth saved. From your description, I would expect this to be the case so a local cache will not help. Rule of thumb is if your downstream traffic is not at least

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Geoffrey Keating
Keenan Singh writes: > Hi Guys > > We are an ISP in the Caribbean, and are faced with extremely high Bandwidth > costs, compared to the US, we currently use Peer App for Caching however > with most services now moving to HTTPS the cache is proving to be less and >

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Marty Strong via NANOG
Seemingly also a GGC is there: https://ix.tt/cache-services-now-live-at-ttix/ maybe if the cost is low it might be worth it, assuming the incumbent doesn’t make it prohibitive. Regards, Marty Strong -- Cloudflare - AS13335 Network Engineer

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Marty Strong via NANOG
I believe the ISP is located in Trinidad & Tobago. There are five international submarine cables that land on the island: - SG-SCS - Americas-II - ECFS - Southern Caribbean Fiber - ECLink Of those, 1 go to the closest real interconnectivity hub of Miami, with the others requiring another pair

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The challenges are almost certainly economics related, at the lack of competition and high costs for layer 1/2 transport from his Caribbean island to Miami. Via whatever submarine cables exist that are controlled by larger ILEC type entities/telcos. Or satellite (whether geostationary transponder

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Richard Hicks
​​ I don't know the the Caribbean Internet Exchanges market. Are any worth peering at versus buying additional L2 bandwidth to Miami? https://cw.ams-ix.net/ http://www.ocix.net/ocix/ Rick​ On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Keenan Singh wrote: > Hi Guys > > We are an

RE: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Luke Guillory
: Bandwidth Savings On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:08:45 -0500, Keenan Singh said: > do have a Layer 2 Circuit between the Island and Miami, I am seeing > there are WAN Accelerators where they would put a Server on either end > and sort of Compress and decompress the Traffic before it goes over >

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:08:45 -0500, Keenan Singh said: > do have a Layer 2 Circuit between the Island and Miami, I am seeing there > are WAN Accelerators where they would put a Server on either end and sort > of Compress and decompress the Traffic before it goes over the Layer 2, I > have never

RE: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Luke Guillory
I reached out to my vendor and got back the following. Also what services have you seen move to HTTPS that you're not able to cache? Hi Luke, Regarding HTTPS Streaming and Netflix... Netflix announced in the spring of 2015 that it would move to HTTPS delivery by April of 2016. At the time

Re: Bandwidth Savings

2017-01-11 Thread Marty Strong via NANOG
The first step would be profiling your traffic sources. I would imagine you probably have a bunch of YouTube, Netflix et al. content, that those content providers will send you a cache box for, subject to minimum traffic requirements. Regards, Marty Strong