Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-20 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, jim deleskie wrote: Those all sounds like legit business questions.   Yup. On the otherhand at the other end of the customer spectrum: http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/it-ti/ipv6/ipv6tb-eng.asp -jim On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:45 PM, William F. Maton Sotomayor

RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-20 Thread Erik Soosalu
Well, I was just looking at my Bell Canada Fibe (IPTV/Internet) setup last nite and the gear Bell provides doesn't do IPv6 at all (not even an option). This gear is about 3 years old, so my hopes for them aren't very good... Thanks, Erik -Original Message- From: NANOG

RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-20 Thread Jean-Francois . Dube
Videotron (AS5769) is offering 6RD (RFC5969) to all residential customers, if their gear supports it. (DHCP option 212) (But our MGMT still calls it beta for now.) JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG

RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-20 Thread Gabriel Blanchard
6rd is in my opinion a band-aid solution, I don't see the point of offering IPv6 if it requires IPv4. native IPv6 should be offered where possible. We offer native IPv6 to all our DSL customers but only on an opt-in basis, we're although unfortunately unable to offer IPv6 over Cable since we

RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-20 Thread Jean-Francois . Dube
There are obviously layer 8-9-10 issues to deal with as well before native IPv6 can be deployed. Being a IP NOC grunt, I keep my focus on layer 1-7. JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org a écrit sur

Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-20 Thread Lee Howard
I notice an IETF meeting in Toronto one month hence. If Canadian operators (and content providers) were interested in talking about their common problems, it might be convenient to schedule some time adjacent to that meeting. Lee On 6/20/14 10:12 AM, jean-francois.d...@videotron.com

Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-20 Thread Owen DeLong
The point is that you can offer IPv6 to a lot of people using various instatntiations of 100.64.0.0/10 but using globally unique IPv6 addresses providing them full true internet access without NAT. Yes, 6rd is a stopgap, but 6rd stopgap is better than multi-natted IPv4 only. Owen On Jun 20,

Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-20 Thread JF Tremblay
I concur with Owen here. 6RD is a band-aid, but a pretty effective one to introduce IPv6 to the staff and management in your organization. When you get to native deployment, your engineering and ops staff no longer freak out when they see some IPv6 config. They can even debug ISIS and the IPv6

Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-19 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Sadiq Saif wrote: On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? Teksavvy does it

Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

2014-06-19 Thread jim deleskie
Those all sounds like legit business questions. -jim On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:45 PM, William F. Maton Sotomayor wma...@ottix.net wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Sadiq Saif wrote: On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in