Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-11-01 Thread Mark Andrews
> > > From: Matthieu Michaud mailto:matth...@nxdomain.fr > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 1:34 PM > To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: DNS Services for a registrar > > Hi, > > I have been very happy with route53 wh

RE: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-11-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Thanks everyone for their response. We are going to use the Azure Zone Service. Cheers Ryan From: Matthieu Michaud [mailto:matth...@nxdomain.fr] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 1:34 PM To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: DNS Services for a registrar

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-15 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 22:56, Ryan Finnesey wrote: > > We need to provide DNS services for domains we offer as a registrar. > We were discussing internally the different options for the deployment. Does > anyone see a down side to using IaaS on AWS and Azure? No anycast. >

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-13 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 03:50:55PM +0300, DaKnOb wrote: > Someone registered the domain “corp.gr” and now sells subdomains similar to > .com.gr, .co.uk, etc. They use a “clever” way to make sure they will have > 100% uptime at virtually no cost: > heh. amusing. surprised they don't

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Good point ;) Yeah axfr would be useful (must have) On Saturday, August 13, 2016, Ca By wrote: > > > On Friday, August 12, 2016, Damian Menscher via NANOG > wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:07 PM,

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Matthieu Michaud
Hi, I have been very happy with route53 while lack of IPv6 support was not an issue for the use case. Did you evaluate CloudFlare in PaaS solution ? Their free plan includes DNS. Best regards, On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: > We need to provide DNS

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread DaKnOb
> On 12 Aug 2016, at 18:36, Keith Stokes wrote: > > Route53 can get expensive for lots of domains. Queries are cheap with the > first 1M free, but if you have 1000 domains you’ll pay $500/month. > > You can build dedicated servers in multiple AZs and data centers able

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Eli Lindsey
>From the speed comparison report: "Averaged across all name servers" That's a silly, synthetic, and non-representative test. It encourages cohosting all your NS at all your sites to game the performance numbers, hurting availability. I'd expect to see a decent amount of latency variance across

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread DaKnOb
Someone registered the domain “corp.gr” and now sells subdomains similar to .com.gr, .co.uk, etc. They use a “clever” way to make sure they will have 100% uptime at virtually no cost: $ dig NS corp.gr ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode. ; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> NS corp.gr ;; global options:

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Ca By
On Friday, August 12, 2016, Damian Menscher via NANOG wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Mehmet Akcin > wrote: > > > On a serious note, what are the providers out there that can do a decent > > secondary dns hosting service?. looks like a

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > On a serious note, what are the providers out there that can do a decent > secondary dns hosting service?. looks like a lot of people stopped offering > this service for bulk amount of domains at reasonable price. Let's say

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Mehmet Akcin
On a serious note, what are the providers out there that can do a decent secondary dns hosting service?. looks like a lot of people stopped offering this service for bulk amount of domains at reasonable price. Let's say (100K domains) mehmet On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Mark Andrews

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Rubens Kuhl writes: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Filip Hruska wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > If you are going the IaaS route, definitely checkout KnotDNS project. > > According to their benchmarks

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Filip Hruska wrote: > Hi, > > If you are going the IaaS route, definitely checkout KnotDNS project. > According to their benchmarks [1], it does much better than other DNS > servers in about every workload. > > The problem with KnotDNS/Yadifa/NSD

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Keith Stokes
Never say “never”. ;-) Notice I did not say “you must” or “you should”. It is something to consider based on how many 9s are important to your business. The job of many of us is to think of those things that are highly unlikely, assign a risk and make a plan (or not) accordingly. The likely

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Justin Paine via NANOG
Right -- we could do it, though it would be a first for us. Justin Paine Head of Trust & Safety CloudFlare Inc. PGP: BBAA 6BCE 3305 7FD6 6452 7115 57B6 0114 DE0B 314D On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Filip Hruska wrote: > Even for registrars? > > Because OP's

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Filip Hruska
Even for registrars? Because OP's question was > We need to provide DNS services for domains we offer as a registrar. Best Regards, Filip On 12.8.2016 22:11, Justin Paine via NANOG wrote: I won't push further than this -- but it seems a bit silly not to mention that CloudFlare provides free

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Justin Paine via NANOG
I won't push further than this -- but it seems a bit silly not to mention that CloudFlare provides free AnyCast DNS. You can elect not to even use any of our caching if you just want to use us for DNS. J Justin Paine Head of Trust & Safety CloudFlare Inc. PGP: BBAA 6BCE 3305 7FD6

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Peter Beckman
If there are other metrics in which to measure DNS speed, availability and redundancy, I'd love to seeing them. I have but my own datapoint and the metrics from others. Tear down the testing model, but at least show a different/better one in return. On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Keith Stokes wrote:

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Filip Hruska
Hi, If you are going the IaaS route, definitely checkout KnotDNS project. According to their benchmarks [1], it does much better than other DNS servers in about every workload. Best Regards, Filip [1] https://www.knot-dns.cz/benchmark/ On 12.8.2016 07:56, Ryan Finnesey wrote: We need to

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Keith Stokes
Much better math than mine. I pulled from memory and didn’t know the discount @ 25. I’m only running a half-dozen domains in Route53 and the rest are hosted internally. You could probably use less than a c4.large too. On Aug 12, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Peter Kristolaitis

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
On 2016-08-12 11:36 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: Route53 can get expensive for lots of domains. Queries are cheap with the first 1M free, but if you have 1000 domains you’ll pay $500/month. If you had 1000 domains, you'd pay $110/month, not $500. The first 25 domains at $0.50/month each, after

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Keith Stokes
Route53 can get expensive for lots of domains. Queries are cheap with the first 1M free, but if you have 1000 domains you’ll pay $500/month. You can build dedicated servers in multiple AZs and data centers able to handle that many domains for far less. You might also consider running dedicated

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:56 AM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: > Does anyone see a down side to using IaaS on AWS and Azure [for DNS]? Latency is critical for DNS. Literally everything else an application does stalls behind completion of the DNS lookups. Everything else being equal,

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread John Kinsella
Also a big fan of DNS Made easy, but I wish they’d add DNSSEC already. I’m happy with AWS - one thing to consider is model out the network costs. That seems to get some people, who just expect the bill for instances at end of month. If you’re worried about availability due to an availability

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Peter, That test is meaningless as it is from only few locations which seems to overlap with those who scored well. I would suggest using that as a base to compare speed. Mehmet On Friday, August 12, 2016, Peter Beckman wrote: > I highly recommend DNS Made Easy. Super

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Peter Beckman
I highly recommend DNS Made Easy. Super fast, extremely reliable (100% up time in the last 10-12 years excluding an 8 hour period 4-5 years ago where they got DDOSed, no issues since), very affordable. #2 fastest for July: http://www.solvedns.com/dns-comparison/2016/07 Has been #1 several

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Mark Andrews
And regardless of what / who you choose make sure that they are running RFC compliant servers. There are a lot of DNS providers that feel they don't need to use RFC compliant servers which makes problems for all the resolver vendors out there. It also make it hard to deploy new features that

Re: DNS Services for a registrar

2016-08-12 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Aug 12, 2016, at 1:56 AM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: > > We need to provide DNS services for domains we offer as a registrar. We were > discussing internally the different options for the deployment. Does anyone > see a down side to using IaaS on AWS and Azure? My big