The best course here is to completely avoid any contact with the
horribly-mismanaged Amazon cloud operation until such time as those
running it demonstrate a bare minimum of professionalism -- which,
Seconded.
At dnswl.org http://dnswl.org/, most of Amazon IP space has a pretty bad
Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org
To: Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:46:00 PM
Subject: Re: Data Center operations mail list?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 08:18:59PM -0500
21, 2015 9:03:42 PM
Subject: Re: Data Center operations mail list?
My 2 cents: I use it for other services and haven't had any issues over the
past few months, but one problem I was having with SES + Mailman is that even
though my account was out of their sandbox, I still had some smtp errors
Quick update: I moved away from Amazon SES to a private smtp server
provided by Chris, who is also helping moderate the list.
I left Amazon SES configured as a backup since the bounce rate after
thousands of emails peaked at only 0.08%
Thanks!
Rafael
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Rich
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 08:18:59PM -0500, Rafael Possamai wrote:
Quick update: I moved away from Amazon SES to a private smtp server
provided by Chris, who is also helping moderate the list.
That's a good idea. I noticed.
I left Amazon SES configured as a backup since the bounce rate after
@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:46:00 PM
Subject: Re: Data Center operations mail list?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 08:18:59PM -0500, Rafael Possamai wrote:
Quick update: I moved away from Amazon SES to a private smtp server
provided by Chris, who is also helping moderate the list
FWIW I agree.
On August 20, 2015 at 11:43 r...@gsp.org (Rich Kulawiec) wrote:
It appears that this list is sending its outbound traffic via Amazon's
cloud operation.
This is a profoundly horrible idea, not through any fault of yours, but
because Amazon's cloud operation is a
Hi Rich,
Thank you for letting me know, I expected Amazon to actually take care of
spammers and not let it be a free for all. I can definitely switch it
elsewhere, so please let me know what you have in mind.
I can let the mailman server do deliveries as well, so that's a second
option.
Best
It appears that this list is sending its outbound traffic via Amazon's
cloud operation.
This is a profoundly horrible idea, not through any fault of yours, but
because Amazon's cloud operation is a massive, non-stop fountain of spam
and Amazon personnel flatly refuse to lift a finger to do
HI Guys:
I must have missed this but where can I sign up for this new mailing list?
Thank you.
Alex
On 8/20/2015 8:51 AM, Rafael Possamai wrote:
Hi Rich,
Thank you for letting me know, I expected Amazon to actually take care of
spammers and not let it be a free for all. I can definitely
I actually suggested this to Chris while discussing what to have in the
website, I definitely think it would be nice to have a platform to help
plan and schedule local events for social and networking purposes.
I am working with a few people on designing a website, so I am guessing
some time in
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 08:36:24AM +0800, Phill Twiss wrote:
You should really have captcha's configured for your mailman lists
No. In fact: hell no. Captchas have zero security value and serve only
to annoy and waste the time of legitimate users. Far less intrusive
and more effective
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote:
On Aug 15, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com
wrote:
There is reasonable demand for a forum. It might need a little marketing
to get a list with traction going.
There seems to be some
hi ya martin
On 08/16/15 at 07:57pm, Martin Hannigan wrote:
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote:
There seems to be some traction, with 268 members on the NADCOG list so
far.
good
Great! It's a little more complicated than list member count.
On Aug 15, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote:
There is reasonable demand for a forum. It might need a little marketing
to get a list with traction going.
There seems to be some traction, with 268 members on the NADCOG list so far.
—Chris
While I am recent incorporation, have you ever thought about organizing
a few meetups? I am not from America, but there has been a boom
recently, on a few cities around the world striving to make a global
linked community network of techlabs.
Probably, it isn't suited for this community
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Simon Lockhart si...@slimey.org wrote:
On Tue Aug 11, 2015 at 01:35:28pm -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Absolutely feel free to use it; I haven't seen a single message on it
in...
well, it was 3 years ago I was in datacenters regularly, so I'm goin with
3
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Phill Twiss ph...@daa.com.au wrote:
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Hi Rafael and everyone else :}( sorry the cross-post )
You should really have captcha's configured for your mailman lists
Some shady actors out
Thanks! That works for Apache2.2. For those interested that are using
Apache2.4, make this change:
-Order deny,allow
-Deny from all
+Require all denied
The rest should be the same. Here is some more info:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html
Best,
Rafael
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Hi Rafael and everyone else :}( sorry the cross-post )
You should really have captcha's configured for your mailman lists
Some shady actors out there are using mailman lists to target certain
email addresses. Its a
Done, thanks!
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com
wrote:
On Aug 12, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Oliver O'Boyle oliver.obo...@gmail.com
wrote:
I missed the subscription info. Can you repost please? I can be #100 :)
http://lists.nadcog.org
Welcome aboard.
On Aug 12, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Oliver O'Boyle oliver.obo...@gmail.com wrote:
I missed the subscription info. Can you repost please? I can be #100 :)
http://lists.nadcog.org
Welcome aboard.
—Chris
Interesting... I just went to the web site to subscribe and I received an
email that I was already subscribed.
I don't remember doing that... So how did this happen??
Robert
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 07:33:05 -0500
Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
I was actually surprised with how many
Robert, the first few people who expressed interested were subscribed
manually. Everyone else has been using the list website to subscribe! There
should have been a message sent out with the subscription email explaining
it :)
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Robert Webb rw...@ropeguru.com
On 11/Aug/15 17:46, Alex Brooks wrote:
With the lack of interest compared to NANOG (especially seeing how the
old list simply dried up) it might be best making the list global
rather than North America only to get the traffic levels up a bit.
Tend to agree that a list with global scope might
I was actually surprised with how many people subscribed already. I think
we are close to 100 already in less than 24 hours.
I could use some help drafting some basic mailing list rules (no spam, no
soliciting, etc) and if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at
I missed the subscription info. Can you repost please? I can be #100 :)
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
I was actually surprised with how many people subscribed already. I think
we are close to 100 already in less than 24 hours.
I could use some
I am setting one up and invited Chris to moderate it with me. I've always
looked for a list that covers that topic as well. I followed the same name
style as nanog and registered the nadcog.org domain.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
Did you come across
: Data Center operations mail list?
I am setting one up and invited Chris to moderate it with me. I've always
looked for a list that covers that topic as well. I followed the same name
style as nanog and registered the nadcog.orghttp://nadcog.org domain.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Ryan
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 07:59:41AM -0700, James Downs wrote:
On Aug 11, 2015, at 06:01, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
style as nanog and registered the nadcog.org domain.
Nad Cog?
North American Data Center Operations Group, perhaps?
--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
On Aug 11, 2015, at 06:01, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
style as nanog and registered the nadcog.org domain.
Nad Cog?
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, James Downs wrote:
On Aug 11, 2015, at 06:01, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
style as nanog and registered the nadcog.org domain.
Nad Cog?
datacenterops.org is still available *hint*hint*
~Marcin
A very good idea!
-mel via cell
On Aug 11, 2015, at 6:06 AM, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
I am setting one up and invited Chris to moderate it with me. I've always
looked for a list that covers that topic as well. I followed the same name
style as nanog and registered the
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, James Downs wrote:
On Aug 11, 2015, at 06:01, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
style as nanog and registered the nadcog.org domain.
Nad Cog?
datacenterops.org is still available
dc-...@puck.nether.net mailto:dc-...@puck.nether.net has been around for at
least 5 years and has, to date, 3 or 4 emails IIRC. It’s still there if you
want something already built and functional.
Mike
On Aug 11, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug
There is a DC-ops list hosted at puck I setup for people awhile ago. Feel free
to use that.
Jared Mauch
On Aug 6, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote:
Is there a mail list that’s analogous to NANOG, but focused on the data
center infrastructure and operations? The
: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:46:45 AM
Subject: Re: Data Center operations mail list?
There is a DC-ops list hosted at puck I setup for people awhile ago.
Feel free to use that.
Jared Mauch
On Aug 6, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com
wrote
Exactly. I figured if it can be organized with the help of the community
and provide other benefits aside from a mailing list, I wouldn't have a
problem with helping.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:07 AM, mikea mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 07:59:41AM -0700, James Downs wrote:
Nothing is currently running on that domain. It is just available if you
make the right offer to purchase it.
Robert
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:49:33 -0500
Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
What is the mailman URL?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info
What is the mailman URL?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, James Downs wrote:
On Aug 11, 2015, at 06:01, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
style as nanog and registered the nadcog.org domain.
Nad Cog?
On Tue Aug 11, 2015 at 01:35:28pm -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Absolutely feel free to use it; I haven't seen a single message on it in...
well, it was 3 years ago I was in datacenters regularly, so I'm goin with
3 years. :-)
There's a message there now... :)
Rather than fragmenting further,
hi nanog
On 08/11/15 at 04:46pm, Alex Brooks wrote:
With the lack of interest compared to NANOG (especially seeing how the
old list simply dried up) it might be best making the list global
rather than North America only to get the traffic levels up a bit.
there used to be an active
Marcin Cieslak wrote:
O
datacenterops.org is still available *hint*hint*
~Marcin
Doesn't look likes it's available any more.
In terms of building a critical mass, there do seem to be a goodly
number of data center types on:
various forums at webhostingtalk.com
(probably) some of the
Rather than fragmenting further, I'd suggest building up demand first
on existing infrastructure. If it gets to the size of NANOG and
needing a support organisation around it, then it can split off
then...
no! we need committees, and different colored badges, and web sites,
and deadlines,
The list just went live at lists.nadcog.org. I am open to any
suggestions, just let me know. When you say move forward with the concept,
do you mean get the organization started as well, not just the mailing list?
Thanks,
Rafael
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Mike the.li...@mgm51.com wrote:
On 8/11/2015 3:27 PM, Simon Lockhart wrote:
On Tue Aug 11, 2015 at 01:35:28pm -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Absolutely feel free to use it; I haven't seen a single message on it in...
well, it was 3 years ago I was in datacenters regularly, so I'm goin with
3 years. :-)
There's a message
Haha, are you saying some people out there put nanog on their resume? I
thought 2008 was long gone.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
Rather than fragmenting further, I'd suggest building up demand first
on existing infrastructure. If it gets to the size of
Did you come across one?
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From: Chris Boydmailto:cb...@gizmopartners.com
Sent: 8/6/2015 1:04 PM
To: NANOGmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Data Center operations mail list?
Is there a mail list that’s analogous to NANOG, but focused on
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