RE: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-05 Thread Frank Bulk
Thanks for all those who responded on and off-list. Several persons confirmed for me using their Akamai account that the address space was correctly listed in Akamai's database, and between Google's quasi-generic online form (http://google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=ip) and a Google

Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-04 Thread Greg Skinner
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 01:31:28AM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote: Overall, geo location has turned out to be a somewhat valuable tool in terms of language, fraud, and localization. I think that it's important to continue to urge improvements in this technology, not divestment. I don't see how

RE: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-04 Thread Skywing
Any security provided (I must assume that you speak of fraud prevention services) is the probablistic sort, of reducing, for example, aggregate (and not specific) losses. – S -Original Message- From: Greg Skinner g...@gds.best.vwh.net Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 15:52 To: Martin

Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-04 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Skywing skyw...@valhallalegends.com wrote: Any security provided (I must assume that you speak of fraud prevention services) is the probablistic sort, of reducing, for example, aggregate (and not specific) losses. Yes, probablistic in a wholistic fashion i.e.

Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-03 Thread Chris Hills
On 03/01/09 07:31, Martin Hannigan wrote: Overall, geo location has turned out to be a somewhat valuable tool in terms of language, fraud, and localization. I think that it's important to continue to urge improvements in this technology, not divestment. Is it really that difficult to check the

Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-03 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Chris Hills c...@chaz6.com wrote: On 03/01/09 07:31, Martin Hannigan wrote: Overall, geo location has turned out to be a somewhat valuable tool in terms of language, fraud, and localization. I think that it's important to continue to urge improvements in this

Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-02 Thread Martin Hannigan
Maxmind www.maxmind.com is a fairly good indicator of what geo-locators are seeing, but I recall a recent thread here that there have been disagreements between the various geolocation services. I think that some of it depends on the reference sources i.e. how many and what the algorithms are and

Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-02 Thread Mark Foster
Funny this should come up... I've found that a local Mobile Broadband outfit here in NZ are using an IP range that Akamai's Geolocation service thinks is actually in New Jersey. Causes me some oddness as a result - this despite the fact that Maxmind has it correct. Whilst investigating this

Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-02 Thread Neil
Or maybe they just shouldn't rely on it so much. It annoys me at the hoops I have to jump through to change the language on Google-owned properties when they think I'm coming from Czechoslovakia or Malaysia or some such... Some, like Blogger, still don't do it right... On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at

Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly

2009-01-02 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Neil kngsp...@gmail.com wrote: Or maybe they just shouldn't rely on it so much. It annoys me at the hoops I have to jump through to change the language on Google-owned properties when they think I'm coming from Czechoslovakia or Malaysia or some such... Some,