Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-09-07 Thread Bill Stewart
Friends of mine recently bought a large traditionally-designed house. The former servant's quarters are now the server room.

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-17 Thread William Warren
On 8/16/2011 6:17 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: On 08/16/2011 03:28 PM, William Warren wrote: On 8/12/2011 7:28 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Hey all, I have one rack of stuff..:) Not Enough! We will be removing you now from the list that is. :) I then have my tower(custom build) and ups

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-16 Thread William Warren
On 8/12/2011 7:28 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Hey all, I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm I've got the following: Production rack (4 post AV rack) From

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-16 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 08/16/2011 03:28 PM, William Warren wrote: On 8/12/2011 7:28 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Hey all, I have one rack of stuff..:) Not Enough! We will be removing you now from the list that is. :) I then have my tower(custom build) and ups on another shelf. What kind of UPS? Seems most

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-16 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: What kind of UPS? Seems most here prefer APC. Perhaps that's a topic for another thread... I can usually get used APC SmartUPSes on the cheap. When the batteries go bad or are removed, they play dead. They don't

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-16 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 05:17:09PM -0500, Charles N Wyble wrote: What kind of UPS? Seems most here prefer APC. Perhaps that's a topic for another thread... If you want products available at the local big box retailer APC is pretty much the only quality choice. If you're

RE: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-16 Thread Alex Rubenstein
All the actual EE's I know are most impressed with the PowerWare (now Eaton Power) designs. For insance their 5110 is a line-interactive design built with quality components. The last I looked APC did not have a line-interactive design in this price range; they were all the standby design.

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-16 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:07:15PM -0400, Alex Rubenstein wrote: Most EE's don't deal with day to day operations of datacenters. We have been a long time (14 years) user of Exide / Powerware / Invensys / Eaton UPS systems. I have many 9315 and 9395's, ranging from 80

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-16 Thread Jima
On 2011-08-16 20:07, Alex Rubenstein wrote: All the actual EE's I know are most impressed with the PowerWare (now Eaton Power) designs. Most EE's don't deal with day to day operations of datacenters. That may be, but I can personally attest that they're often consulted when UPSes for

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-15 Thread Matt Ryanczak
On 8/13/11 4:01 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: Anyone got experience with XBMC and similar linux media centre tools running on tablet or netbook class hardware? I like the idea of using a couple of el cheapo Android tablets with decent external speakers as music/video/TV/phone terminals,

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread jari . arkko
Leo, Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. Because you need optical so that you can run the feed into the backup servers in the EMP protected room? :-) (I have a shelter that had to be added for

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:08:28PM -0700, Leo Bicknell wrote: The holy grail I'm searching for now? A GigE switch with POE, unmanaged is ok, and probably preferred from a price perspective; but with NO FAN. Based on a private message and some poking around it appears

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread Jake Khuon
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 13:11 -0700, Leo Bicknell wrote: So, there you go, a way to star 8 8-port switches off a central switch with the remote switches needing no power. This allows UPS'ing the central switch only, while knowing they will all stay up. In some cases, that's not always a great

RE: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread Blake T. Pfankuch
in the winter. Lets not talk summer I need new windows :) -Original Message- From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:30 PM To: Charles N Wyble Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet? On Fri, 12

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread Matthew Petach
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Jake Khuon kh...@neebu.net wrote: On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 13:11 -0700, Leo Bicknell wrote: So, there you go, a way to star 8 8-port switches off a central switch with the remote switches needing no power.  This allows UPS'ing the central switch only, while

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread Jake Khuon
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 19:07 -0700, Matthew Petach wrote: Of course, if he had local AC power available, it would kinda defeat one of the points of having PoE, which is to be able to put switches where there isn't a convenient AC drop to begin with. ^_^; True. Leo's point of being able to

RE: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Of course, if he had local AC power available, it would kinda defeat one of the points of having PoE, which is to be able to put switches where there isn't a convenient AC drop to begin with. But wait, there is more... Maybe you want your POE devices (like phones) to stay alive during a power

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org The GS110TP is a 8 port 10/100/1000 w/POE + 2 port SFP switch, no fan: http://www.netgear.com/business/products/switches/smart-switches/GS110TP.aspx Note that it only has a 48w power budget, so it can't do full power on each

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-14 Thread Spamming Tree
All your dads are in the closet.

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Chaim Rieger
On 8/12/2011 7:02 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. I dunno about you, but 10GE is both out of my price range, and useless given the speed of my NAS disks, Comcast cable

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 8/12/11 11:59 PM, Chaim Rieger wrote: On 8/12/2011 7:02 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. I dunno about you, but 10GE is both out of my price range, and useless given the

RE: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Alexander Harrowell
data centers - What's in your closet? On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:17 39PM, Joe Greco wrote: What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here I ran a bunch of fiber from the telco rack to the server rack to reduce the risk of damage to expensive servers ... it's likely

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Robert Boyle
At 07:28 PM 8/12/2011, you wrote: I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm I have a 60KVA Kohler diesel genset (with DM550 controller and electronic governor)

RE: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Eric Krichbaum
-Original Message- Anyone got experience with XBMC and similar linux media centre tools running on tablet or netbook class hardware? I like the idea of using a couple of el cheapo Android tablets with decent external speakers as music/video/TV/phone terminals, getting content from a

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Joe Greco
On 08/12/2011 09:17 PM, Joe Greco wrote: What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here I ran a bunch of fiber from the telco rack What's in the telco rack? This is in your house? What's on it? Demarc and lightning suppressors for T1, 2xISDN BRI, DSL, cable,

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet? Date: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:28:57PM -0500 Quoting Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com): Hey all, I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? I'm trying not to have anything. Mail, AFS fileserver,

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Jeff Kell
On 8/12/2011 8:29 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: So what's in NANOGers home networks/compute centers? :) Surprisingly minimalistic - a Linksys cablemodem and a Belkin Play wireless router, both from Best Buy, a Dell Latitude laptop from work, and a PS/3. (I used to have more gear, but it

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Arthur Clark
Adtran Netvanta 2054 FW Sperry Univac (1979, ~8U rackmount) http://oldcomputers.net/AIM-65.html http://oldcomputers.net/kayproii.html http://www.wap.org/a3/default.html On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote: On 8/12/2011 8:29 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm In my basement: I use a Sparcserver

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet? The holy grail I'm searching for now? A GigE switch with POE, unmanaged is ok, and probably preferred from a price perspective; but with NO FAN. I

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Bryan Fields
On 8/13/2011 01:59, Chaim Rieger wrote: On 8/12/2011 7:02 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. I dunno about you, but 10GE is both out of my price range, and useless given

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 18:28:57 CDT, Charles N Wyble said: I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm He doesn't get out much, does he? :) So what's in NANOGers

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Mike Mainer
I cheat... I use the lab we have in house within the company I work for. After all MXs/Ts/Nexus7k/etc. puts a heavy toll on the home power bill.. :-) On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Hey all, I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:28:57PM -0500, Charles N Wyble wrote: I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm I have installed a 2 post rack in

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Steven Bellovin
The holy grail I'm searching for now? A GigE switch with POE, unmanaged is ok, and probably preferred from a price perspective; but with NO FAN. I can't help with the POE part. I have a 16-port D-Link DGS-1016D -- GigE, no fan, unmanaged. --Steve Bellovin,

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 09:11:56PM -0400, Steven Bellovin wrote: The holy grail I'm searching for now? A GigE switch with POE, unmanaged is ok, and probably preferred from a price perspective; but with NO FAN. I can't help with the POE part. I have a 16-port D-Link

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Randy Bush
I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? a soekris 5501 running freebsd 8-stable a mac mini connected to the tee vee an apple tv connected to the tee vee i moved all servers and such crap into real racks in real colos over a decade ago. i don't want that kind of crap

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Randy Carpenter
Mine is mostly server stuff, as that is my primary function. Router testing is usually done at the office In the utility room in the basement: 4-post rack with the following: Tripp Lite 5000VA UPS with extra battery (everything runs on 240V) NetApp FAS980 with a single shelf of 500GB SATA

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Chaim Rieger
On Aug 12, 2011 6:08 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:28:57PM -0500, Charles N Wyble wrote: I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab:

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Paul Graydon
On 08/12/2011 01:28 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Hey all, I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm Call me lazy, skinflint or otherwise, but I don't have much

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Thomas Crowe
Yes the 8 ports are 10/00, the uplink and downlink are both gige though. You can use all 8 ports with full PoE, I've plugged in 8 polycom 331's and it works just fine. On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:34:03PM

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Jeff Johnstone
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Hey all, I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm My last house engineering

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:57:56PM -0700, Chaim Rieger wrote: What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. I dunno

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Scott Morris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I still get out plenty, thanks! :) It's been years in the making, and more than served its purpose! But convenient to have... And heats the home nicely in the wintertime! And someone said it was all about the toys! Scott On 8/12/11 8:29 PM,

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Cutler James R
I have not found a fiber-to-Ethernet adapter for sufficiently low cost. If I ever do, backyard Gigabit, here I come. On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:57 PM, Chaim Rieger wrote: What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here James R. Cutler james.cut...@consultant.com

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Chaim Rieger
On Aug 12, 2011 7:02 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:57:56PM -0700, Chaim Rieger wrote: What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to all

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Joe Greco
What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here I ran a bunch of fiber from the telco rack to the server rack to reduce the risk of damage to expensive servers ... it's likely to be meaningless but it is just a little extra precaution. The server rack is at least a little

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:17 39PM, Joe Greco wrote: What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here I ran a bunch of fiber from the telco rack to the server rack to reduce the risk of damage to expensive servers ... it's likely to be meaningless but it is just a little

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 08/12/2011 09:17 PM, Joe Greco wrote: What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here I ran a bunch of fiber from the telco rack What's in the telco rack? This is in your house? What's on it? to the server rack to reduce the risk of damage to expensive servers ...

RE: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Eric Krichbaum
[mailto:s...@cs.columbia.edu] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 9:59 PM To: Joe Greco Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Jeff Johnstone Subject: Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet? On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:17 39PM, Joe Greco wrote: What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? Am i the only one here

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 08/12/2011 10:08 PM, Eric Krichbaum wrote: I have a 12 pack of single mode run between wiring closets upstairs and downstairs. Nice. I can't wait to get my next house and be able to say exactly that phrase. LOL. Only one server running feeding media to my xbmc's everywhere but quite a

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 12 August 2011 19:28, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: Hey all, I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm *snip* Just finished putting it

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 13/08/2011, at 11:08 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: Beyond that, a nice home file server, rsynced to something in a real data center each night. This a combo of backup plus high speed access no matter which side of the home connection you are on. I currently use a PC I built