Re: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-15 Thread Kasper Adel
[mailto:karim.a...@gmail.com javascript:;] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:16 PM To: Andrew Latham Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Quantifying the value of customer support I used to think that these kind of situations take place when a manager was never an engineer so he does not understand how

Re: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-15 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
the experience. Dave -Original Message- From: Kasper Adel [mailto:karim.a...@gmail.com javascript:;] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:16 PM To: Andrew Latham Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Quantifying the value of customer support I used to think that these kind of situations take place when

Re: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-15 Thread William Herrin
On Feb 14, 2013 12:58 PM, Kasper Adel karim.a...@gmail.com wrote: We are a 2nd level of escalation in a service provider, trying to put a $ value on the support we give to our NOC and other implementation teams, when they email us about problems they face. Hi Kasper, Support is about

Re: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-14 Thread Andrew Latham
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Kasper Adel karim.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, We are a 2nd level of escalation in a service provider, trying to put a $ value on the support we give to our NOC and other implementation teams, when they email us about problems they face. But we are merely bits

Re: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-14 Thread Joshua Goldbard
Hey, So usually this is done by the business unit leaders. At ATT people used to call it pushing the wastebasket. The idea is that each department runs as a separate business and in order to evaluate the business you debit and credit departments as if they were counterparties in a trade.

Re: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-14 Thread Kasper Adel
I used to think that these kind of situations take place when a manager was never an engineer so he does not understand how things work but i was surprised when i faced these from managers with an intense engineering career so i gave up on trying to give conceptual excuses and want to just give

RE: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-14 Thread Naslund, Steve
I would think your $ value would be calculated by a few factors. 1. How much would it cost to train and hire NOC guys that do what you do today vs. using outsourced support for those issues or going to a higher level team. 2. How much longer would SLA affecting problems take to solve without

Re: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-14 Thread Rodrick Brown
On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Kasper Adel karim.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, We are a 2nd level of escalation in a service provider, trying to put a $ value on the support we give to our NOC and other implementation teams, when they email us about problems they face. But we are merely bits

RE: Quantifying the value of customer support

2013-02-14 Thread Siegel, David
To: Andrew Latham Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Quantifying the value of customer support I used to think that these kind of situations take place when a manager was never an engineer so he does not understand how things work but i was surprised when i faced these from managers with an intense