Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-04 Thread Paul Nash
It’s the “remote capture” that scares me. I was testing some Meraki kit, called their NOC to try to debug some Radius issues, tech tells me “oh yes, I can see your traffic going hither and yon between the test client and test server that are both in your office, and looking at the packet

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-04 Thread Ray Soucy
Honestly, in a lot of cases you don't even need a device to support packet capture as a feature to add it as a feature once its compromised. This is just FUD IMHO. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Paul Nash p...@nashnetworks.ca wrote: I love the built-in remote packet captures, You, the NSA,

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-04 Thread Paul Nash
I love the built-in remote packet captures, You, the NSA, and lots and lots of hackers, ALL love the remote packet capture. If Meraki support can turn it on, so can someone who penetrates their systems (by getting a job there or by hacking), and then they get to see everything happening

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-03 Thread Sean Hunter
I happen to administer a deployment of almost exclusively Meraki gear; ~140 switches (mix of MS42 and MS22) and ~400 AP's (almost all MR16's). I would *not* recommend them for this situation. If you've got a low-usage scenario, they might be fine. The tech support quality has noticeably declined

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-02 Thread Tim Franklin
That's it. Step 1, buy the equipment at full price. Step 2, pay for the cloud management license, yearly. Step 3, no extended warranty option, so pay full price if equipment from step one fails. As long as you're doing step 2 (which you *have* to, otherwise it's a brick), isn't step 3 report

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-01 Thread Dennis Bohn
Of Mike Lyon Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:17 AM To: Manuel Marín Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Check out Xirrus On Jan 28, 2015 9:08 PM, Manuel Marín m...@transtelco.net wrote: Dear nanog community I was wondering if you can recommend or share

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Nash
Consultant (407) 257-5115 -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lyon Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:17 AM To: Manuel Marín Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Check out Xirrus On Jan 28, 2015

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-01 Thread Mike Hammett
To: Eric C. Miller e...@ericheather.com Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 8:41:52 AM Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office We are substantially larger and use Aruba, but I am wondering why no one has mentioned Meraki (now cisco-meraki). We tried one

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-01 Thread Lewis, Mitchell T.
: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 9:55 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I try to avoid anything that Cisco has touched. Also not a fan of their stop paying our recurring fee and the device

RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-02-01 Thread Eric C. Miller
AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I try to avoid anything that Cisco has touched. Also not a fan of their stop paying our recurring fee and the device becomes a brick policy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-30 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Manuel Marín m...@transtelco.net wrote: I was wondering if you can recommend or share your experience with APs that you can use in locations that have 300-500 users. I friend recommended me Ruckus Wireless, it would be great if you can share your experience

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-30 Thread Carlos Alcantar
+1 on Xirrus or Ruckus if you care to sleep at night. Just my 2cents Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com On 1/30/15, 8:19 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-30 Thread Rob Seastrom
Paul Nash p...@nashnetworks.ca writes: Ruckus is also *way* easier to configure than Cisco. Some of the Cisco folk that I know think that that is a point in favour of Cisco, as it adds to job security :-) That matches my experience with Cisco 802.11 kit. Way too many knobs exposed, and

RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-30 Thread Eric C. Miller
level reliability. Eric Miller, CCNP Network Engineering Consultant (407) 257-5115 -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lyon Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:17 AM To: Manuel Marín Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-30 Thread Rob Seastrom
Manuel Marín m...@transtelco.net writes: I was wondering if you can recommend or share your experience with APs that you can use in locations that have 300-500 users. I friend recommended me Ruckus Wireless, it would be great if you can share your experience with Ruckus or with a similar

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Paul Nash
: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net, nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:34:46 AM Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I had a bad experience with it one time at a tradeshow environment. 6 access points setup for public wifi

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Steven Miano
Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I had a bad experience with it one time at a tradeshow environment. 6 access points setup for public wifi. The radio levels were quite good in various areas of the tradeshow however traffic would keep dropping out at random intervals

RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Paul Stewart
Hammett Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:53 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Did you figure out why it was dropping out? All of it dropping out? Just some APs dropping? Just some users dropping? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Hammett na...@ics-il.net, nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:02:20 AM Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Ruckus should work fine for you. You need to have a controller and need a good RF plan but as far as capacity, throughput, roaming etc they are really

RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Lyon
. Their association with the AP would stay in tact Paul -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:53 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Did you figure out why

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Jared Mauch
: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net, nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:34:46 AM Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I had a bad experience with it one time at a tradeshow environment. 6 access points setup for public wifi

RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Paul Stewart
Open – it was just for a trade show setting .. few years ago …. Thanks, Paul From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:07 PM To: Paul Stewart Cc: Mike Hammett; NANOG Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Just curious, were

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Chris Knipe
Mikrotik's also a rather good choice for the Wireless AP side... On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Eduardo Schoedler lis...@esds.com.br wrote: +1 Ruckus+ZoneDirector -- Eduardo Em quinta-feira, 29 de janeiro de 2015, Tyler Mills tylermi...@gmail.com escreveu: Have had a lot of

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
+1 Ruckus+ZoneDirector -- Eduardo Em quinta-feira, 29 de janeiro de 2015, Tyler Mills tylermi...@gmail.com escreveu: Have had a lot of experience with Ruckus(and Unifi unfortunately). The Ruckus platform is one of the best. If you will be responsible for supporting the deployment, it will

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Aaron Smith
Aruba Networks is also good for wireless. I support ~2000 users spread out over 50+ buildings on a small college campus. Lots of add on options like Clearpass for NAC and guest provisioning and Airwave for historical data and RF planning. Good Luck! Aaron Smith - Original Message -

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Paul Nash
Make that +2. I am halfway through an install for about 800 users spread through a multi-story building with around 100 R700 access points and ZD 3000. Once you understand the basics, it is trivial to set up, easy to manage, performance is superb. Using RADIUS auth you can assign different

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
What problems have you had with UBNT? It's zero hand-off doesn't work on unsecured networks, but that's about the extent of the issues I've heard of other than stadium density environments. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Ray Soucy
Just curious. What kind of problems have you seen with the Ubiquiti solution? I've had a few units in for testing a potential managed wireless for rural libraries and so far they've been pretty rock solid for the price. My biggest critique is that they don't support many features and are fairly

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Lyon
...@paulstewart.org To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net, nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:34:46 AM Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I had a bad experience with it one time at a tradeshow environment. 6 access points setup for public wifi. The radio

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Seth Mos
Op 29 jan. 2015, om 17:18 heeft Tyler Mills tylermi...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Most of the issues are related to firmware. Most of my UBNT experience was with the UAP-Pro and the UAP-AC, and it wasn't a good experience. Production firmwares seem to be of beta quality. It’s meh,

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Clay Fiske
Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net, nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:34:46 AM Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I had a bad experience

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Fiske c...@bloomcounty.org To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:12:23 PM Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Anyone played with/deployed any Mimosa gear? I’m not a “real” wireless guy so I’ll spare folks any armchair speculation. Just looks

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Ray Soucy
Yeah, most people ignore ZH. UBNT marketing hyped it up quite a bit, and for a residential deployment it can work OK, but if you have any kind of background in wireless you'll understand that it goes out the window for a non-trivial deployment due to the requirement of all APs sharing a channel.

RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Paul Stewart
[mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office What problems have you had with UBNT? It's zero hand-off doesn't work on unsecured networks, but that's about the extent

RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Slade, Ian
ian.sl...@saic.com  | 703.676.5234 -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Smith Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:13 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Aruba Networks is also good for wireless. I

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
...@ics-il.net, nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:34:46 AM Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I had a bad experience with it one time at a tradeshow environment. 6 access points setup for public wifi. The radio levels were quite good in various areas

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Tiago Felipe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 +1 Xirrus On 01/29/2015 08:17 AM, Paul Nash wrote: Make that +2. I am halfway through an install for about 800 users spread through a multi-story building with around 100 R700 access points and ZD 3000. Once you understand the basics, it is

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Tyler Mills
- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office What problems have you had with UBNT? It's zero hand-off doesn't work on unsecured networks

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
, January 29, 2015 10:18:31 AM Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office Most of the issues are related to firmware. Most of my UBNT experience was with the UAP-Pro and the UAP-AC, and it wasn't a good experience. Production firmwares seem to be of beta quality. For features

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Sean Harlow
: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I had a bad experience with it one time at a tradeshow environment. 6 access points setup for public wifi. The radio levels were quite good in various areas of the tradeshow however traffic would keep dropping out at random intervals as soon

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:34:46 AM Subject: RE: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I had a bad experience with it one time at a tradeshow environment. 6 access points setup for public wifi. The radio levels were quite good in various areas of the tradeshow however traffic would

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-29 Thread Jared Mauch
: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:50:20 PM Subject: Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office I have had this same behavior at my UniFi pilot site. What I discovered in my case was a combination of bad behaviors in both the UniFi unit and Android. Long story short Android

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-28 Thread Mike Lyon
Check out Xirrus On Jan 28, 2015 9:08 PM, Manuel Marín m...@transtelco.net wrote: Dear nanog community I was wondering if you can recommend or share your experience with APs that you can use in locations that have 300-500 users. I friend recommended me Ruckus Wireless, it would be great if

Re: Recommended wireless AP for 400 users office

2015-01-28 Thread Tyler Mills
Have had a lot of experience with Ruckus(and Unifi unfortunately). The Ruckus platform is one of the best. If you will be responsible for supporting the deployment, it will save you a lot of frustration when compared with UBNT. On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 12:18:54 AM Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com