Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread James Hess
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:53:22 GMT, Michael Sokolov said: >> Factoid: we outnumber the pigs by 1000 to 1.  Even if only 1% of us were >> to go out and shoot a pig, we would still outnumber them 10 to 1!  We >> *CAN* win -- wake up, people! > Yes, but shooting down an RFC1925-compliant porker may r

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread Lynda
On 12/5/2010 11:32 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote: Pretty much, I no longer care what you wrote. Go away. Seriously. Just GO AWAY. Alt.politics is -->> thataway. *plonk* -- Die gedanken sind frei.

RE: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread Michael Sokolov
Nathan Eisenberg wrote: > As someone who was personally connected to this (http://www.komonews.com/ne= > ws/local/78088192.html), and this, http://www.komonews.com/news/local/68320= > 537.html I feel pretty justified in telling you to keep this 'shoot a pig' = > crap off the list. To all uniform

RE: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> Factoid: we outnumber the pigs by 1000 to 1. Even if only 1% of us > were > to go out and shoot a pig, we would still outnumber them 10 to 1! We > *CAN* win -- wake up, people! Dude. As someone who was personally connected to this (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/78088192.html), and this

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Sat, Dec 04, 2010, Ken Chase wrote: > >> And if they come and ask the same but without a court order is a bit >> trickier and more confusing, and this list is a good place to track the >> frequ

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, Dec 04, 2010, Ken Chase wrote: > And if they come and ask the same but without a court order is a bit trickier > and more confusing, and this list is a good place to track the frequency of > and > responce to that kind of request. Except of course when you're "asked" not to share what ha

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Ken Chase
On Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 08:17:30PM -0600, Jorge Amodio said: >> However, given the political climate and general network cluelessness in the >> government sector, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to spend an hour or so >> thinking what you'd do if the humorless guys in dark suits and sung

Re: [NANOG] Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Vadim Antonov
This nonsense is only non-operational until you suddenly find yourself in a dire need to evade military patrols on a street while you're dragging a bag full of equipment to your "backup" NOC. Been there, done that. What are your contingency plans for the event of a government order (illegal, o

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Jorge Amodio
BTW, at this time only the server at NL seems to be responding -J

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:53:22 GMT, Michael Sokolov said: > Factoid: we outnumber the pigs by 1000 to 1. Even if only 1% of us were > to go out and shoot a pig, we would still outnumber them 10 to 1! We > *CAN* win -- wake up, people! Yes, but shooting down an RFC1925-compliant porker may require

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread John Peach
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 20:17:30 -0600 Jorge Amodio wrote: > > However, given the political climate and general network cluelessness in the > > government sector, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to spend an hour or so > > thinking what you'd do if the humorless guys in dark suits and sunglasses > >

Re: [NANOG] Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 02:53:22AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: > > Factoid: we outnumber the pigs by 1000 to 1. Even if only 1% of us were > to go out and shoot a pig, we would still outnumber them 10 to 1! We > *CAN* win -- wake up, people! Is there really any need for this nonsense

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Jorge Amodio wrote: > If you get a court order I guess you have two choices, one is to > comply with it and the other get used to wear a nice pair of matching > bracelets until your attorney shows up. Option 3: unleash your full firepower against the miscreants who have dared to invade your soil

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Valdis Kletnieks" > > On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:24:46 EST, Bret Clark said: > > On 12/04/2010 06:03 PM, Ken Gilmour wrote: > > > Now Sarah Palin is suggesting Wikileaks are terrorists and should > > > be taken offline with technical capabilities > > > Enough alr

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Jorge Amodio
> However, given the political climate and general network cluelessness in the > government sector, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to spend an hour or so > thinking what you'd do if the humorless guys in dark suits and sunglasses > showed up with a court order to cut off your customer's access

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:24:46 EST, Bret Clark said: > On 12/04/2010 06:03 PM, Ken Gilmour wrote: > > Now Sarah Palin is suggesting Wikileaks are terrorists and should be taken > > offline with technical capabilities > Enough already...this is not a political list! However, given the political clim

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Jorge Amodio
> ++ << (ie *2) -J

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Beavis
++ Enough already...this is not a political list -- ()  ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\  www.asciiribbon.org   - against proprietary attachments Disclaimer: http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread jim deleskie
+1 On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Bret Clark wrote: > On 12/04/2010 06:03 PM, Ken Gilmour wrote: >> >> Now Sarah Palin is suggesting Wikileaks are terrorists and should be taken >> offline with technical capabilities >>  http://www.golem.de/1012/79848.html >> >> or for anyone who can't speak Ger

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Bret Clark
On 12/04/2010 06:03 PM, Ken Gilmour wrote: Now Sarah Palin is suggesting Wikileaks are terrorists and should be taken offline with technical capabilities http://www.golem.de/1012/79848.html or for anyone who can't speak German: http://translate.google.ie/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golem.de%

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Ken Gilmour
Now Sarah Palin is suggesting Wikileaks are terrorists and should be taken offline with technical capabilities http://www.golem.de/1012/79848.html or for anyone who can't speak German: http://translate.google.ie/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golem.de%2F1012%2F79848.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8 (

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Jorge Amodio
> Not the Department, not the Secretary, not the Joint Chiefs, just the lowly > old spokesman, all by himself, who is "not aware."  A weaker and less > convincing denial can scarcely be imagined this side of the divorce court. > > And the CNN headline, while technical true : > > U.S. officials de

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:45 AM, andrew.wallace wrote: > Washington (CNN) -- U.S. officials at the Pentagon and State Department > denied Friday knowing of any efforts to take down the WikiLeaks website or > asking companies to do so. > > http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/03/wikileaks.takedo