Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On 25/Aug/16 11:10, Randy Bush wrote: > > how does this work for mpls vpn based services across continent/country? > i.e. are there inter-provider mpls vpn issues? Interestingly, being a relatively young player in the MPLS space, we see Africa slowly moving away from typical l3vpn services as

Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-25 Thread Randy Bush
> At Level 3, a VPOP is a POP that we operate under someone else's > license. For example, we have VPOPs in a number of markets throughout > the Asia Pacific region, including countries like China, Vietnam, > Indonesia, and others. We are buying a service from a partner that > has an operating

RE: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-24 Thread Siegel, David
] On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:58 AM To: Yucong Sun <sunyuc...@gmail.com>; Rod Beck <rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>; William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ? On 24/Aug/16

Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-24 Thread Dave Cohen
peering. Your gear is in Amsterdam and someone gives you VLANs to > LINX. > > > - R. > > > > From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of William Herrin > <b...@herrin.us> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:46 AM &g

Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-24 Thread Rod Beck
t: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:46 AM To: Yucong Sun Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ? On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Yucong Sun <sunyuc...@gmail.com> wrote: > I came across the idea of the virtual POP , but the website for them have > way too much jargon to

Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Aug/16 01:20, Yucong Sun wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. > > I understand on layer 2 or like william point out (on anything other than > IP) it make total sense. > > However on layer 3, with existing transit bandwith with said provider it > would be redudant. (Assume The one you

Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-23 Thread Jared Mauch
This could be done with an OPS and diverse fibers or a dual transponder type solution or an Ethernet ring amongst other solutions. It generally means to router geeks that a router isn't there, but some other technology is in use. Often it is a growing market or declining market for the

Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-23 Thread Yucong Sun
LINX. > > > - R. > > > -- > *From:* NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of William Herrin < > b...@herrin.us> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:46 AM > *To:* Yucong Sun > *Cc:* NANOG > > *Subject:* Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ? > On

Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-23 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Yucong Sun wrote: > I came across the idea of the virtual POP , but the website for them have > way too much jargon to me[1][2][3], can someone explain it like i'm five > (:-D)? A virtual Point Of Presence means that you provide services at