RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-22 Thread Ben S. Butler
De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-15 Thread Ben S. Butler
. /snip Thoughts...? Ben -Original Message- From: Ben S. Butler Sent: 15 November 2012 00:05 To: 'Michael Smith'; William Herrin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums. Hi, Again, I thought the discussion was about

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Ben S. Butler ben.but...@c2internet.net wrote: Hi, ... snip ... What we need is a way to filter that says throw this prefix away if I can see it inside of another prefix. Ie discard this /48 if it is part of a /32 (or bigger) that I also have in my RIB and

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-15 Thread Ben S. Butler
Hi, Ok. I am trying to encourage an inclusive exploration of an issue that seems to be emergent. I am trying to get the community to articulate BCP not dictate it. Would you want this logic to still apply if you have ::/0 in your table anywhere? Yes obviously limits would apply to the filter

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Ben S. Butler ben.but...@c2internet.netwrote: 3 Don't use filters, generate it from an IRR? Given there is no right answer what is considered to be the best fit one? This sounds like your best bet. Assuming you can find an IRR with comprehensive enough

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Ben S. Butler
[mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2012 13:25 To: Ben S. Butler Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Ben S. Butler ben.but...@c2internet.netmailto:ben.but...@c2internet.net wrote: 3 Don't

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Ben S. Butler ben.but...@c2internet.net wrote: So what is the best answer. 1 Don't advertise islands of space under assignment minimum, without providing a covering aggregate route? 2 Don't use strict filters, they don't work well and

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Frank Habicht
On 11/14/2012 6:02 PM, William Herrin wrote: and send a polite email to the POC to the effect of, Please beware that because you have not offered a covering route matching your allocation, your IPv6 network is not reachable from ours. IPv6 is not IPv4: end users requiring /48s for multihoming

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Ben S. Butler
Habicht [mailto:ge...@geier.ne.tz] Sent: 14 November 2012 16:56 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums. On 11/14/2012 6:02 PM, William Herrin wrote: and send a polite email to the POC to the effect of, Please beware

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Frank Habicht
-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums. On 11/14/2012 6:02 PM, William Herrin wrote: and send a polite email to the POC to the effect of, Please beware that because you have not offered a covering route matching your allocation, your IPv6 network is not reachable from ours

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:10:57PM +, Ben S. Butler wrote: I am hoping for a bit of advice. We are rolling out IPv6 en mass now to peers and I am finding that our strict IPv6 ingress prefix filter is meaning a lot of peers are sending me zero prefixes. Upon

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Ben S. Butler ben.but...@c2internet.net wrote: Yes, nice. But... It does not address the case when this is not the ISPs customers but the ISP (read content provider) that operates globally but without a network interconnecting their routers. Hi Ben, That case

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Smith
On Nov 14, 2012, at 10:06 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Ben S. Butler ben.but...@c2internet.net wrote: Yes, nice. But... It does not address the case when this is not the ISPs customers but the ISP (read content provider) that operates globally

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Michael Smith mksm...@mac.com wrote: I guess I'm confused. I have a /32 that I have broken up into /47's for my discrete POP locations. I don't have a network between them, by design. And, I won't announce the /32 covering route because there is no single

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Smith
On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:50 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Michael Smith mksm...@mac.com wrote: I guess I'm confused. I have a /32 that I have broken up into /47's for my discrete POP locations. I don't have a network between them, by design. And, I

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Ben S. Butler
is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums. On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:50 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Michael Smith mksm...@mac.com wrote: I guess I'm confused. I have a /32 that I have broken up into /47's for my

Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Michael Smith mksm...@mac.com wrote: On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:50 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Michael Smith mksm...@mac.com wrote: I guess I'm confused. I have a /32 that I have broken up into /47's for my discrete