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From: Joe Greco [mailto:jgr...@ns.sol.net]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:53 PM
To: Nathan
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8
There are sizable chunks that are fairly quiet (un-interesting
numbers, luck of the draw
On Mar 12, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
There's no way it's as widely used, and generally speaking, it appears
that those who have used it have done so out of ignorance and(/or?)
stupidity, sometimes blindly following documentation without
comprehending, etc.
I don't know about that.
On 03/12/2010 01:20 PM, Axel Morawietz wrote:
Am 12.03.2010 17:03, schrieb Nathan:
[...] Its
amazing how prolific 1.x traffic is.
one reason might also be, that at least T-Mobile Germany uses 1.2.3.*
for their proxies that deliver the content to mobile phones.
And I'm not sure what they
On Mar 12, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
There's no way it's as widely used, and generally speaking, it appears
that those who have used it have done so out of ignorance and(/or?)
stupidity, sometimes blindly following documentation without
comprehending, etc.
I don't know about
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 22:52 -0800, Nathan wrote:
Hello,
I'm hoping to alleviate the what's going on!? type messages here this time.
:)
stupid question
Any IPs we can ping and get a response back from to verify everything is
ok? 1.2.3.4 isn't pingable, for example. :(
/stupid question
On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:52 AM, Nathan wrote:
I'm hoping to alleviate the what's going on!? type messages here this time.
:)
Oh, I understand what's going on exactly. YouTube is trying to balance their
ratios. :)
--
TTFN,
patrick
Here's an except from the APNIC provided LOA I provided to
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:53 AM, William Pitcock
neno...@systeminplace.net wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 22:52 -0800, Nathan wrote:
Hello,
I'm hoping to alleviate the what's going on!? type messages here this
time. :)
stupid question
Any IPs we can ping and get a response back from to
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 07:34:10AM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Oh, I understand what's going on exactly. YouTube is trying to
balance their ratios. :)
That might explain why they're only announcing it behind Cogent. :)
--
Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net
A trace-route reaches the Youtube border... so everything is ok. The
routes are being ECMP'd to a set of capture hosts for the purpose of
spreading load, aggregating more disk-space for packets, providing
some form of redundancy for the experiment, etc. We're receiving about
175mbps of
We've never cared about ratios... its futile!
Level3 is slow to update prefix lists this time. I simply picked a
couple networks that respond to my emails. My laziness to call others
is why the route isn't visible there. :)
,N
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Richard A Steenbergen
Am 12.03.2010 17:03, schrieb Nathan:
[...] Its
amazing how prolific 1.x traffic is.
one reason might also be, that at least T-Mobile Germany uses 1.2.3.*
for their proxies that deliver the content to mobile phones.
And I'm not sure what they are doing when they are going to receive this
route
Axel Morawietz wrote:
Am 12.03.2010 17:03, schrieb Nathan:
[...] Its
amazing how prolific 1.x traffic is.
one reason might also be, that at least T-Mobile Germany uses 1.2.3.*
for their proxies that deliver the content to mobile phones.
And I'm not sure what they are doing when they are going
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Kevin Loch kl...@kl.net wrote:
Axel Morawietz wrote:
Am 12.03.2010 17:03, schrieb Nathan:
[...] Its
amazing how prolific 1.x traffic is.
one reason might also be, that at least T-Mobile Germany uses 1.2.3.*
for their proxies that deliver the content to
On 12 Mar 2010, at 1:34, Kevin Loch wrote:
Axel Morawietz wrote:
Am 12.03.2010 17:03, schrieb Nathan:
[...] Its
amazing how prolific 1.x traffic is.
one reason might also be, that at least T-Mobile Germany uses 1.2.3.*
for their proxies that deliver the content to mobile phones.
And I'm
Axel Morawietz wrote:
Am 12.03.2010 17:03, schrieb Nathan:
[...] Its
amazing how prolific 1.x traffic is.
one reason might also be, that at least T-Mobile Germany uses 1.2.3.*
for their proxies that deliver the content to mobile phones.
And I'm not sure what they are doing when
There are sizable chunks that are fairly quiet (un-interesting
numbers, luck of the draw, etc). Given that its mostly
mis-configurations, laziness, ignorance, or poor planning... I suspect
the worst ranges will need to be sacrificed, and the remaining 80-90%
of the space used for legitimate
There are sizable chunks that are fairly quiet (un-interesting
numbers, luck of the draw, etc). Given that its mostly
mis-configurations, laziness, ignorance, or poor planning... I suspect
the worst ranges will need to be sacrificed, and the remaining 80-90%
of the space used for legitimate
On Mar 12, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Kevin Loch wrote:
Axel Morawietz wrote:
Am 12.03.2010 17:03, schrieb Nathan:
[...] Its
amazing how prolific 1.x traffic is.
one reason might also be, that at least T-Mobile Germany uses 1.2.3.*
for their proxies that deliver the content to mobile phones.
And
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Joe Greco wrote:
If 1.0.0.0/8 has been widely used as de-facto rfc1918 for many years,
perhaps it is time to update rfc1918 to reflect this?
I seem to recall that the WIANA project decided to use 1.0.0.0/8 for
the internal network within their meshAP project...
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Joe Greco wrote:
[something I didn't write]
If 1.0.0.0/8 has been widely used as de-facto rfc1918 for many years,
perhaps it is time to update rfc1918 to reflect this?
I seem to recall that the WIANA project decided to use 1.0.0.0/8 for
the internal network within
Joe Greco wrote:
So:
I decided to use 5/8 for our internal networks because I felt that it
stretched my fingers too much to go all the way over to 1 and then over
to the other end of the top row to 0. 5 seemed a happier and easier
choice.
The Hamachi P2P VPN client beat you to it... they
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