Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Sep/20 21:09, aar...@gvtc.com wrote: > Thanks for the heads up Mark... I see docs showing SRv6 not supported until > XR 6.6, I put XR7 in my lab to start testing it... I wasn't talking about SRv6... I am talking about SR-MPLS, signaled via and supported for IPv6, in the IGP. Mark.

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-12 Thread Adrian Farrel
>> Does anyone know the scope on why we have 2 names for this ? > > SPRING is the IETF working group name - Source Packet Routing in Networking > Segment Routing is under SPRING Yeah, sorry, this was my fault. Gotta have a catchy name. As to "SPRINGv4" as others have said, this is not a recogni

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread aaron1
I found these threads about BGP Prefix-SID decoded needed for Wireshark. Anyone know what wireshark version fixes this ? I just installed 3.2.6 and that doesn’t seem to do it https://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-bugs/201603/msg00621.html https://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-bu

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread aaron1
: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names SR could be instantiated with 2 data planes, MPLS and IPv6 - SR-MPLS and SRv6 respectively. MPLS data plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 (similarly to LDP6), MPLSoUDP->SRoUDP allows transport of SR-MPLS over IP/UDP(RFC8

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread aaron1
Thanks for the heads up Mark... I see docs showing SRv6 not supported until XR 6.6, I put XR7 in my lab to start testing it... I have what seems to be a good test for vpnv4 mpls l3vpn over SRv6 IS-IS in core This is my first go at this so still learning. Srv6 has a strange locator thing with i

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
I have described what SR is, not what vendors (for variety of reasons) do with it, hence “could” ;-) As a side note - SRoUDP works seamlessly over either v4 or v6. Regards, Jeff > On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:35, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 10/Sep/20 10:40, Jeff Tantsura wrote: >> >> MPLS data

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Sep/20 10:40, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > MPLS data  plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 > (similarly to LDP6), Be mindful of sketchy (or non-existent) IPv6 support in SR for IS-IS and OSPF across all vendors. Mark.

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
SR could be instantiated with 2 data planes, MPLS and IPv6 - SR-MPLS and SRv6 respectively. MPLS data plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 (similarly to LDP6), MPLSoUDP->SRoUDP allows transport of SR-MPLS over IP/UDP(RFC8663) and could be used to build innovative, end2end arch

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, at 08:08, aar...@gvtc.com wrote: > Interesting... I've never heard of SPRINGv4 Neither did I until a few days ago. > I wonder if SPRINGv4 is like SRv6, meaning, SPRING(SR) over IPv4 dataplane? > Or, am I reading way too much into that SPRINGv4 acronym? Like SR-VXLAN ?

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-09 Thread aaron1
Interesting... I've never heard of SPRINGv4 https://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/ptx-series/datasheet s/1000538.page I found it in the bottom section I wonder if SPRINGv4 is like SRv6, meaning, SPRING(SR) over IPv4 dataplane? Or, am I reading way too much into that SPRINGv4 a

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-09 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean via NANOG
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, at 10:14, Jeff Tantsura via NANOG wrote: > Out of curiosity - if you are interested in SR, where are you getting > your information from if not IETF (SPRING)? Much beloved vendor claims support for "SPRINGv4" feature for a certain family of products (I personally expect som

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-06 Thread Jeff Tantsura via NANOG
Aaron, Out of curiosity - if you are interested in SR, where are you getting your information from if not IETF (SPRING)? As for history - we (at Redback) have published 1st draft describing SR-MPLS data plane in 2003 (LDP control plane). Regards, Jeff > On Sep 6, 2020, at 09:53, Saku Ytti via

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-06 Thread Saku Ytti via NANOG
Hey, On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 04:26, Aaron Gould via NANOG wrote: > Does anyone know the scope on why we have 2 names for this ? Seriously, was > it one of those things where a vendor started doing it first (pre-standard) > as sr, and then ietf started standardizing it as spring ? …or was it al