Re: Carriers need to independently verify LOAs

2021-04-19 Thread Matt Erculiani
Nothing is stopping the perpetrator of a BGP hijack as a result of a forged or otherwise illegitimate LOA from facing civil litigation as a result of revenue loss or other harm done. This thread and others like it highlight that there is absolutely some negligence here and could very well find

Re: Carriers need to independently verify LOAs

2021-04-19 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021, Peter Beckman wrote: And while it would be nice if everyone "independently verified every LOA" the cost of doing so in the far-too-many edge cases is business-endingly high. If carriers faced legal liability, with appropriate incentatives, I'd bet they would solve the

Re: Carriers need to independently verify LOAs

2021-04-19 Thread Peter Beckman
US/Canada (ideally all of NANPA) Carriers need to standardize the porting process. Right now, I have an anecdotal database for each carrier which requires a slightly different process. For Verizon Wireless, you have to generate a Port Out PIN for each number, which expire after 7 days.

Re: Carriers need to independently verify LOAs

2021-04-19 Thread Joe Greco
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 01:20:22PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2021, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > >Anecdotal: With the prior consent of the DID holders, I have successfully > >ported peoples' numbers using nothing more than a JPG scan of a signature > >that looks like an illegible 150 dpi