RE: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-15 Thread Brandt, Ralph
Note the EATON Press release. Maybe the burn on the bench is the way they get to the California energy reduction Standards? If it isn't working it isn't using power. Date: 23 October 2012 Latest Eaton Thought Leadership White Paper Provides Technical Analysis of Eaton's Energy Saver System

RE: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-15 Thread Tom Morris
Yeah, that's about right. When I had one fail that was not set in power saver mode, it just shut off intermittently before letting out the genie. When I had one go out while it was in energy saver mode, it continued to operate but put out a weak ~80Vrms with heavy distortion that caused equipment

RE: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-14 Thread Erik Amundson
I've had issues and experience with many types of UPSes, including HP (probably OEM'd from someone else), APC, EATON/Powerware, and Liebert/Emerson. I keep coming back to APC. Solid units, and are always slightly 'ahead' in technology. Sure, I've seen each model have failures and even faults

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-14 Thread Greg Ihnen
Are these UPS units going inside the racks? Would it not be better to do something in the power room with an inverter on the circuits that feed the racks, such as a large Outback unit with sufficient battery capacity? http://www.amazon.com/OutBack-Inverter-3600-Watts-Volt/dp/B002MWAAYU With one

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Berry Mobley
At 02:59 PM 11/13/2012, Seth Mattinen wrote: Does anyone use Eaton 9130 series UPS for anything? I'm curious how they've worked out for you. I bought a 700VA model to give it a whirl versus the traditional APC since the Eaton is an online type with static bypass and also does some high

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Mike A
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:59:18AM -0800, Seth Mattinen wrote: Does anyone use Eaton 9130 series UPS for anything? I'm curious how they've worked out for you. I bought a 700VA model to give it a whirl versus the traditional APC since the Eaton is an online type with static bypass and also

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Blake Dunlap
As a side note, how do you call a UPS online if it stays on bypass most of the time, and throws out of bypass to go to battery? On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Mike A mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:59:18AM -0800, Seth Mattinen wrote: Does anyone use Eaton 9130 series

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Robert Bonomi
From: Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:20:35 -0600 _ On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Mike A mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:59:18AM -0800, Seth Mattinen wrote: Does anyone use Eaton 9130 series UPS for anything? I'm curious how they've

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Daniel Griggs
Hi Seth, A previous employer we looked at a few UPS. We used Emerson GXT2/3 3Kva UPSs and they worked a treat. We also tried the Eaton 9130 and we never had any problems with them, but the SNMP monitoring was only good for telling you if there was a problem, not what the problem was. So we

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: From: Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:20:35 -0600 _ On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Mike A mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:59:18AM -0800, Seth Mattinen wrote: Does

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/13/12 1:20 PM, Blake Dunlap wrote: As a side note, how do you call a UPS online if it stays on bypass most of the time, and throws out of bypass to go to battery? It's a selectable feature. I was probably going to set it to true online mode, but play with the other mode for curiosity's

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Adrian
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:59, Seth Mattinen wrote: Does anyone use Eaton 9130 series UPS for anything? I'm curious how they've worked out for you. I bought a 700VA model to give it a whirl versus the traditional APC since the Eaton is an online type with static bypass and also does some

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Tom Morris
Sorry to say, I've used them and had them eat themselves. They just die mysteriously and let out lots of smoke when they do. When they do, however, they leave behind a perfectly good set of batteries. I'd recommend looking elsewhere... Does Eaton/PowerWare still make the FerrUPS series? Those were

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Michael Painter
Adrian wrote: We have several 5130 and 9125 models (2kVA rackmount), never given us a problem in years of service... Well, one network management card that lost its mind, reset the configuration and went on with life, but the UPS just chugged along. Biggest plus has been that they don't cook

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Alex
We have quite alot of Eaton UPS's in our network, all sorts of models. There have been no problems from what I've seen, except when you add water from a broken pipe or bad roof. We've had the once in a blue moon management card reset as Adrian said but it didn't interrupt our equipment. On

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Michael Painter
Alex wrote: We have quite alot of Eaton UPS's in our network, all sorts of models. There have been no problems from what I've seen, except when you add water from a broken pipe or bad roof. We've had the once in a blue moon management card reset as Adrian said but it didn't interrupt our

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Jeff Kell
On 11/13/2012 6:42 PM, Tom Morris wrote: Sorry to say, I've used them and had them eat themselves. They just die mysteriously and let out lots of smoke when they do. When they do, however, they leave behind a perfectly good set of batteries. I'd recommend looking elsewhere... Does

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Tim Jackson
Just go -48vdc. None of these pesky UPS problems :) Unfortunately there's a serious lack of PoE switches that are -48. On Nov 13, 2012 8:51 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote: On 11/13/2012 6:42 PM, Tom Morris wrote: Sorry to say, I've used them and had them eat themselves. They just

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/13/12 6:49 PM, Jeff Kell wrote: On 11/13/2012 6:42 PM, Tom Morris wrote: Sorry to say, I've used them and had them eat themselves. They just die mysteriously and let out lots of smoke when they do. When they do, however, they leave behind a perfectly good set of batteries. I'd recommend

RE: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Just go -48vdc. None of these pesky UPS problems :) Well, you still have 1/2 the UPS - the inverter section. It's not a silver bullet.