Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-16 Thread Bryan Socha
The best way as a isp/provider to keep google updated on your geo is: 1: support their self published geo feed: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-google-self-published-geofeeds-02.html 2: If you qualify get setup on their peering portal http://peering.google com and you'll be able to provide them

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-06 Thread Fred Hollis
Honestly, I lost patience the system learning the proper location of the IPv6 block. I have a very similar problem to the OP since 4-5 months, submitted this IP correction form multiple times... nothing changed. This is *very* annoying. Yes, my whois/SWIP is perfectly fine, every other geo ip

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Fred Hollis f...@web2objects.com wrote: Honestly, I lost patience the system learning the proper location of the IPv6 block. I have a very similar problem to the OP since 4-5 months, submitted this IP correction form multiple times... nothing changed. This is

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20150505210746.gh22...@hezmatt.org, Matt Palmer writes: On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Luan Nguyen wrote: There's a form here - https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip But google is pretty smart, its systems will learn the correct geolocation over time...

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 10:56:22AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 20150505210746.gh22...@hezmatt.org, Matt Palmer writes: On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Luan Nguyen wrote: There's a form here - https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip But google is pretty smart,

RE: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Matthew Black
Mailing List Subject: Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/873?hl=en On 7 April 2015 at 23:26, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: A friend of mine lives in Alabama and has business service from att. But Google thinks he's in France. We've checked

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Luan Nguyen
. matthew black california state university, long beach -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+matthew.black=csulb@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Cavaca Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 3:41 PM To: John Levine Cc: NANOG Mailing List Subject: Re: Fixing Google geolocation

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Pedro Cavaca
. matthew black california state university, long beach -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+matthew.black=csulb@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Cavaca Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 3:41 PM To: John Levine Cc: NANOG Mailing List Subject: Re: Fixing Google geolocation

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Matt Palmer
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Luan Nguyen wrote: There's a form here - https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip But google is pretty smart, its systems will learn the correct geolocation over time... That'd be quite a trick, given that the netblock practically can't be used

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 8, 2015 7:19 AM, Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote: Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com writes: MaxMind (a great product) I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all address blocks assigned to a VPN vendor as open proxy even when advised repeatedly that

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Rob Seastrom
Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com writes: MaxMind (a great product) I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all address blocks assigned to a VPN vendor as open proxy even when advised repeatedly that the disputed addresses (a) had no VPN services running on them

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Max Tulyev
We operate IPv6 tunnel broker tb.netassist.ua, so /48 from our /32 is spread all around the world. Google change geo of our WHOLE /32 from time to time to another cute random place ;) One time Google decided we are in IRAN and block a lot of content as not available in your country o_O

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Tim Franklin
That all said: Restricting content based on location is complete and utter nonsense in 2015. The world is global, people want to pay for content and the content owners just don't allow people to pay for it. Globalisation is for your corporate lords and masters to buy labour and raw materials

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2015-04-08 13:31, Max Tulyev wrote: We operate IPv6 tunnel broker tb.netassist.ua, so /48 from our /32 is spread all around the world. Google change geo of our WHOLE /32 from time to time to another cute random place ;) One time Google decided we are in IRAN and block a lot of content as

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Colin Johnston
Globalisation only works if network abuse and network contacts follow best practice and engage. Else trade blocks and network country blocks are done and remain in place until certain countries ethically/practically do the right thing. Colin On 8 Apr 2015, at 13:17, Tim Franklin

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Rob Seastrom
shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com writes: On Apr 8, 2015 7:19 AM, Rob Seastrom [[r...@seastrom.com]] wrote: Blair Trosper [[blair.tros...@gmail.com]] writes: MaxMind (a great product) I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all address blocks assigned to a VPN

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Max Tulyev
On 04/08/15 14:56, Jeroen Massar wrote: That stated, properly providing a WHOIS entry for each prefix (inetnum/inet6num) is a good idea as that kind of indicates that that prefix is fixed in that location and not just moving around. [skip] Do make sure though that you do not show any foreign

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Pedro Cavaca
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/873?hl=en On 7 April 2015 at 23:26, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: A friend of mine lives in Alabama and has business service from att. But Google thinks he's in France. We've checked for various possibilities of VPNs and proxies and such, and

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Fred Hollis
Thanks for sending this to the list: We have the very same issue as well (both IPv4+IPv6). If someone knows the magic button to solve this, please contact me as well. On 08.04.2015 at 00:26 John Levine wrote: A friend of mine lives in Alabama and has business service from att. But Google

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Arzhel Younsi
The list on http://nanog.peeringdb.com/index.php/GeoIP is useful, especially if several GeoIP databases return incorrect locations. -- Arzhel On Wed, Apr 8, 2015, at 10:42, Fred Hollis wrote: Thanks for sending this to the list: We have the very same issue as well (both IPv4+IPv6). If

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Blair Trosper
No, Google has their own internal system. Doubt MaxMind will help out. This discussions and others like it may lead you in the right direction: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/fkyem9xUKOQ On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn aa...@heyaaron.com wrote: You

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Blair Trosper
It wouldn't hurt to correct it with MaxMind (a great product), but you'd probably have better results dealing with Google directly. If you have Google Apps, you've got support, and that would be one way to go about getting it addressed. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
You might try here: https://www.maxmind.com/en/correction -A On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Fred Hollis f...@web2objects.com wrote: Thanks for sending this to the list: We have the very same issue as well (both IPv4+IPv6). If someone knows the magic button to solve this, please contact me as

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
I figure they all collaborate. I updated one of our IPs with MaxMind and a few weeks later Google was fixed. Of course that could be because half the staff here carry tiny GPS-enabled Google location reporting devices in their pocket too... -A On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Blair Trosper

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread John R. Levine
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/873?hl=en He says he sent in the IP update three weeks ago, nothing happened. Any other suggestions? On 7 April 2015 at 23:26, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: A friend of mine lives in Alabama and has business service from att. But Google

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
We'll investigate your report and, if necessary, pass the details on to our engineering team. Updates to IP addresses may take more than a month. We won't follow up with you individually but we'll do our best to resolve the issue. 'more than a month' 3wks. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:24 PM, John