Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-02-01 Thread Jack Bates
On 2/1/2011 10:10 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: We've sold routers for years, but make it clear to our customer that we are doing this as a convenience to the customer and that we are not responsible for it. I agree with you, but I also know my telco's. It would go horribly wrong. :) Jack

RE: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-02-01 Thread Frank Bulk
x27;re familiar with makes it easier. Frank -Original Message- From: Dan White [mailto:dwh...@olp.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:51 AM To: Jack Bates Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed On 31/01/11 09:28 -0600, Jack Bates

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-31 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/31/2011 9:51 AM, Dan White wrote: That rules out 3rd party firmware like dd-wrt, since the customer is unlikely to get support when calling the vendor. At this point, I'd be happy with two good options (two different vendors) to recommend. So far, D-link is looking good. Yeah, don't get

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-31 Thread Dan White
On 31/01/11 09:28 -0600, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/31/2011 9:23 AM, Chris Conn wrote: As for the DIR-615, it should, but it doesn't...At least, the E3/E4 revisions I had. I contacted D-LINK support and was able to get a beta build that seems promising. But DHCP-PD over PPPoE works relatively we

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-31 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/31/2011 9:23 AM, Chris Conn wrote: As for the DIR-615, it should, but it doesn't...At least, the E3/E4 revisions I had. I contacted D-LINK support and was able to get a beta build that seems promising. But DHCP-PD over PPPoE works relatively well, minus a couple of little "features". I

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-31 Thread Chris Conn
On 27/01/11 08:17 -0600, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/27/2011 12:57 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're looking for. The DIR-655 is a more affordable option. Haven't had the chance to look at that one. Will check it out. In regards to (2)

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Scott Weeks
On 1/27/11 10:40 AM, Scott Weeks wrote: > --- frnk...@iname.com wrote: > From: "Frank Bulk" > > Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're > --- > > > > Ewww, yuck! "...this router utilizes dual active firewalls (SPI and NAT

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Brielle
On Thu, January 27, 2011 2:31 pm, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > On 1/27/11 10:01 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: >> For god's sake, stay away from the DIR-825(Rev A), which has been effectively abandoned by DLINK support and has no IPv6 support at all. > pretty sure you can't find those on the shelf... > The current

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
unlike a simpler device you can actually turn that off. in fact it has more knobs than you've likely seen in a consumer cpe... joel On 1/27/11 10:40 AM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- frnk...@iname.com wrote: > From: "Frank Bulk" > > Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the thi

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 1/27/11 10:01 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: > > For god's sake, stay away from the DIR-825(Rev A), which has been > effectively abandoned by DLINK support and has no IPv6 support at all. pretty sure you can't find those on the shelf... The current model I bought on a lark for someone for christmas 2

RE: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Scott Weeks
--- frnk...@iname.com wrote: From: "Frank Bulk" Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're --- Ewww, yuck! "...this router utilizes dual active firewalls (SPI and NAT) to prevent potential attacks from across the Internet.

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Jim Gettys
On 01/27/2011 12:46 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: On 1/27/11 7:33 AM, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/27/2011 9:25 AM, Dan White wrote: The DIR-825(Rev B) running firmware 2.05NA does. From the status screen: IPv6 Connection Type : Autoconfiguration (SLAAC/DHCPv6) Nice. New love for D-Link then.

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 1/27/11 7:33 AM, Jack Bates wrote: > > > On 1/27/2011 9:25 AM, Dan White wrote: >> >> The DIR-825(Rev B) running firmware 2.05NA does. From the status screen: >> >> IPv6 Connection Type : Autoconfiguration (SLAAC/DHCPv6) > > Nice. New love for D-Link then. I've had DSL modem vendors s

RE: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Frank Bulk
@nanog.org Subject: Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed On 1/27/2011 9:25 AM, Dan White wrote: > > The DIR-825(Rev B) running firmware 2.05NA does. From the status screen: > > IPv6 Connection Type : Autoconfiguration (SLAAC/DHCPv6) Nice. New love for D-Lin

RE: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Frank Bulk
Original Message- From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:18 AM To: frnk...@iname.com Cc: Owen DeLong; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed On 1/27/2011 12:57 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > Have yo

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 9:25 AM, Dan White wrote: The DIR-825(Rev B) running firmware 2.05NA does. From the status screen: IPv6 Connection Type : Autoconfiguration (SLAAC/DHCPv6) Nice. New love for D-Link then. I've had DSL modem vendors sending me their IPv6 stuff. It's been horrid. Luckily,

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Dan White
On 27/01/11 08:17 -0600, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/27/2011 12:57 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're looking for. The DIR-655 is a more affordable option. Haven't had the chance to look at that one. Will check it out. In regards to (2),

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 12:57 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're looking for. The DIR-655 is a more affordable option. Haven't had the chance to look at that one. Will check it out. In regards to (2), is it even possible to do DHCPv6-PD on with

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Richard Barnes wrote: Could you elaborate? Which circumstances? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It works for routing native IPv6 under some circumstances as well. If the broadband service is provided with bridged mode (i.e. If your router gets I

RE: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-26 Thread Frank Bulk
er. Frank -Original Message- From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:59 AM To: Owen DeLong Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed I believe it has to do with IPv6 mechanisms for handling native

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-26 Thread Jack Bates
I believe it has to do with IPv6 mechanisms for handling native addressing. I haven't had the opportunity to test it myself, but from dealing with other vendors, I find that they all support subsets of possible configurations. For example, we test the following with each CPE device which suppor

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-26 Thread Owen DeLong
I haven't done exhaustive testing, but, it has to do with certain combinations of IPv4 configurations and IPv6 routing do work and other combinations don't. Owen On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > Could you elaborate? Which circumstances? > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:23 AM,

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-26 Thread Richard Barnes
Could you elaborate? Which circumstances? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > It works for routing native IPv6 under some circumstances as well. > > Owen > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Mohacsi Janos wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Franck Martin wrote: >> >>> What a

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-26 Thread Owen DeLong
It works for routing native IPv6 under some circumstances as well. Owen On Jan 26, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Mohacsi Janos wrote: > > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Franck Martin wrote: > >> What about an Airport Extreme? It has a wan interface that does PPPOE >> >> The IPv6 feature seems working, with

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-26 Thread Marco Hogewoning
Hi, Maybe a bit more to explain. Up to now I asked the vendors to provide certain information before adding a box to the matrix. Apple was send a copy but they never responded. In future we are going to build the matrix upon user supplied data. See the article on the future of this work at htt

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-26 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Franck Martin wrote: What about an Airport Extreme? It has a wan interface that does PPPOE The IPv6 feature seems working, with 6to4 or static tunnels and a basic IPv6 firewall. Yes it is. I already reported to Marco. http://labs.ripe.net/Members/marco/content-ipv6-cp

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-25 Thread Franck Martin
What about an Airport Extreme? It has a wan interface that does PPPOE The IPv6 feature seems working, with 6to4 or static tunnels and a basic IPv6 firewall. - Original Message - From: "Mirjam Kuehne" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tuesday, 25 January, 2011 3:34:14 AM Subject: Future of the I