Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-11 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-06-10 12:39 -0500), Blake Hudson wrote: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if the BGP table contains ~500k prefixes, which are then summarized into ~300k routes (RIB), and the FIB contains only the best path entries from the RIB, wouldn't the FIB be at or below 300k? There is

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-11 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: On (2014-06-10 12:39 -0500), Blake Hudson wrote: There is nothing to summarize away from global BGP table, if you have number showing less, it's probably counter bug or misinterpretation. Global BGP table, single BGP feed, will

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-11 Thread Blake Hudson
Matthew Petach wrote the following on 6/10/2014 7:03 PM: On the couple Cisco platforms I have available with full tables, Cisco summarizes BGP by default. Since this thread is talking about Cisco gear, I think it's more topical than results from BIRD. One example from a non-transit

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Blake Hudson
I haven't seen anyone bring up this point yet, but I feel like I'm missing something... I receive a full BGP table from several providers. They send me ~490k *prefixes* each. However, my router shows ~332k *subnets* in the routing table. As I understand it, the BGP table contains duplicate

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Hi Blake, On 10 Jun 2014, at 19:04, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote: In this case, does the 512k limit of the 6500/7600 refer to the RIB or the FIB? And does it even matter since the BGP prefix table can automatically be reduced to ~300k routes? Te 512k limit refers to FIB in the B/C

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/10/14, 10:15 AM, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: Hi Blake, On 10 Jun 2014, at 19:04, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote: In this case, does the 512k limit of the 6500/7600 refer to the RIB or the FIB? And does it even matter since the BGP prefix table can automatically be reduced to ~300k

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Blake Hudson
Łukasz Bromirski wrote the following on 6/10/2014 12:15 PM: Hi Blake, On 10 Jun 2014, at 19:04, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote: In this case, does the 512k limit of the 6500/7600 refer to the RIB or the FIB? And does it even matter since the BGP prefix table can automatically be reduced

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Daniel Suchy
Hello, On 10.6.2014 19:04, Blake Hudson wrote: I haven't seen anyone bring up this point yet, but I feel like I'm missing something... I receive a full BGP table from several providers. They send me ~490k *prefixes* each. However, my router shows ~332k *subnets* in the routing table. As I

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
On 10 Jun 2014, at 19:39, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote: And yes, you’re right - no matter how many neighbors you have, the FIB will only contain best paths, so it will be closer to 500k entries in total rather than N times number of neighbours. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if the

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/10/14, 10:39 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: Łukasz Bromirski wrote the following on 6/10/2014 12:15 PM: Hi Blake, On 10 Jun 2014, at 19:04, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote: In this case, does the 512k limit of the 6500/7600 refer to the RIB or the FIB? And does it even matter since the

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Blake Hudson
joel jaeggli wrote the following on 6/10/2014 1:10 PM: On 6/10/14, 10:39 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: Łukasz Bromirski wrote the following on 6/10/2014 12:15 PM: Hi Blake, On 10 Jun 2014, at 19:04, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote: In this case, does the 512k limit of the 6500/7600 refer to

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 08:07:35 PM Łukasz Bromirski wrote: Because you need to do your own summarization or ask your upstreams to do it for you. Until then, most of transit accepts loosely prefixes in exact length but also longer (i.e. /24 but also both /25s). A couple of major service

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote: joel jaeggli wrote the following on 6/10/2014 1:10 PM: On 6/10/14, 10:39 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: Łukasz Bromirski wrote the following on 6/10/2014 12:15 PM: Hi Blake, On 10 Jun 2014, at 19:04, Blake Hudson

RE: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread Tony Wicks
My 2c: The obvious thing for me is if people are running a full ipv4 route table on a box only just capable of handling one single table of that size, then really now is the time to asses if you really need to hold that table or just drop to default +internal+peers. If you have multiple up

RE: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-06-10 Thread John van Oppen
70952240 bytes of memory 29 multipath network entries and 58 multipath paths -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Tony Wicks Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:45 PM To: 'nanog' Subject: RE: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-12 Thread Pete Lumbis
-- From: Irwin, Kevin kevin.ir...@cinbell.com Date: Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers. To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org I¹m really surprised that most people have not hit this limit already

RE: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-09 Thread Vitkovský Adam
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Irwin, Kevin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 4:39 PM I¹m really surprised that most people have not hit this limit already, especially on the 9K¹s, as it seems Cisco has some fuzzy math when it comes to the 512K limit. I would

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-09 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On May 9, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Vitkovský Adam adam.vitkov...@swan.sk wrote: With 6500/7600 I can understand they've been around for ages and no one anticipated the 512k limit back then. Actually, it *was* anticipated. It's just that those who designed the ASIC didn't necessarily envision

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-08 Thread Nikolay Shopik
...@cinbell.com Date: Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers. To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org I¹m really surprised that most people have not hit this limit already, especially on the 9K¹s, as it seems Cisco has some

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-08 Thread Irwin, Kevin
. -- Forwarded message -- From: Irwin, Kevin kevin.ir...@cinbell.com Date: Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers. To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org I¹m really surprised that most people have not hit

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 04:45:09 PM Irwin, Kevin wrote: It depends, you can put in a table-map to stop the routes from being installed into the FIB/RIB on an ASR-1K with 2GB of RAM you can then have up to 2 million IPv4 routes. Helpful only if you don't want to forward traffic through the

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-08 Thread Nikolay Shopik
I know most people have problems with 2 bgp feeds and 4GB RAM on ASR1002-F (as it max installable memory). So I doubt about 2M routes with 2GB RAM. On 08.05.2014 18:45, Irwin, Kevin wrote: on an ASR-1K with 2GB of RAM you can then have up to 2 million IPv4 routes

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 05:29:08 PM Nikolay Shopik wrote: I know most people have problems with 2 bgp feeds and 4GB RAM on ASR1002-F (as it max installable memory). So I doubt about 2M routes with 2GB RAM. I've never ran the ASR1002-F, but I know some other ASR1000 platforms consume half

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-08 Thread Brandon Ewing
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:39:13PM +, Drew Weaver wrote: I am wondering if maybe we should make some kind of concerted effort to remind folks about the IPv4 routing table inching closer and closer to the 512K route mark. Closer to? Internap announces 507K prefixes to me today.

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-08 Thread Michael Dikkema
...@up.net wrote: Do the ASR1k routers have this issue as well? I searched around but couldn't find any information. -- Forwarded message -- From: Irwin, Kevin kevin.ir...@cinbell.com Date: Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-08 Thread chiel
On 05/06/2014 05:39 PM, Drew Weaver wrote: I am wondering if maybe we should make some kind of concerted effort to remind folks about the IPv4 routing table inching closer and closer to the 512K route mark. Thanks for this e-mail with clear subject ;) Did anyone yet calculated roughly when

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-07 Thread Irwin, Kevin
I¹m really surprised that most people have not hit this limit already, especially on the 9K¹s, as it seems Cisco has some fuzzy math when it comes to the 512K limit. Also make sure you have spare cards when you reload after changing the scaling, those old cards don¹t always like to come back. On

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-07 Thread Alex Lesser
, 2014 at 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers. To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org I¹m really surprised that most people have not hit this limit already, especially on the 9K¹s, as it seems Cisco has some fuzzy math when it comes

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-07 Thread Pete Lumbis
, May 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers. To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org I¹m really surprised that most people have not hit this limit already, especially on the 9K¹s, as it seems Cisco has some fuzzy math when

RE: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-07 Thread Tony Wicks
Do the ASR1k routers have this issue as well? I searched around but couldn't find any information. Not really (according to Cisco) - ESP10 - 1,000,000 IPv4 or 500,000 IPv6 routes ESP20 - 4,000,000 IPv4 or 4,000,000 IPv6 routes ESP40 - 4,000,000 IPv4 or 4,000,000 IPv6 routes

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 06/05/2014 16:39, Drew Weaver wrote: In case anyone wants to check on a 6500, you can run: show platform hardware capacity pfc and then look under L3 Forwarding Resources. to fix the problem on sup720/rsp720: Router(config)#mls cef maximum-routes ip 768 This requires a reload to take

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 6 May 2014, Drew Weaver wrote: Hi all, I am wondering if maybe we should make some kind of concerted effort to remind folks about the IPv4 routing table inching closer and closer to the 512K route mark. We are at about 94/95% right now of 512K. For most of us, the 512K route mark

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Jeff Kell
On 5/6/2014 11:39 AM, Drew Weaver wrote: Hi all, I am wondering if maybe we should make some kind of concerted effort to remind folks about the IPv4 routing table inching closer and closer to the 512K route mark. We are at about 94/95% right now of 512K. For most of us, the 512K route

RE: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Drew Weaver
-Original Message- From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 12:11 PM To: Drew Weaver; 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers. This problem also affects ASR9000 boxes running typhoon line

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 06/05/2014 18:01, Drew Weaver wrote: I believe you mean This problem also affects ASR9000 boxes running ...trident... line cards. Please confirm? er, yes, trident cards, not typhoon cards. typhoon cards are not affected by this. Nick

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Rob Seastrom
I just recently got four sets off eBay. Purportedly genuine Cisco. A shade over $100. Raid the departmental beer fund. :) -r Vlade Ristevski vrist...@ramapo.edu writes: It would probably be a good time to upgrade the memory on my 7206 NPE-G1 as well (512MB). I was going to replace the

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 5/6/2014 10:39 AM, Drew Weaver wrote: Just something to think about before it becomes a story the community talks about for the next decade. Like we have for the last two? -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of