Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-11 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, at 20:51, Mark Tinka wrote: > Well, according to them, SRv6 is winning customers over, and nobody > wants LDPv6. Then again, they have LDPv6 in IOS XR; figures. Well, given their (Cisco's) braindead policy regarding non-implementation of LDPv6 on XE, no wonder people are

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 22:36, Phil Bedard wrote: > In its simplest form without TE paths, there isn't much to SRv6. You use a > v6 address as an endpoint and a portion of the address to specify a specific > VPN service. You completely eliminate the label distribution protocol. Then do

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jun/20 21:36, Phil Bedard wrote: > In its simplest form without TE paths, there isn't much to SRv6. You use a > v6 address as an endpoint and a portion of the address to specify a specific > VPN service. You completely eliminate the label distribution protocol. A BGPv6-free core is

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jun/20 20:45, Saku Ytti wrote: > I'm pretty sure that one or more of Mark, Gert or Tim are thinking > SR/MPLS IPv6 when they say SRv6? Oh, not at all, Saku. > No one in their right minds thinks SRv6 is a good idea, terrible snake > oil and waste of NRE. SR/MPLS IPv6 of course is

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Phil Bedard
In its simplest form without TE paths, there isn't much to SRv6. You use a v6 address as an endpoint and a portion of the address to specify a specific VPN service. You completely eliminate the label distribution protocol. Thanks, Phil On 6/10/20, 2:49 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Saku Ytti"

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Tim Durack
Ah yes, I would say LDPv6 and/or SR/MPLS IPv6. SRv6 reads like a science project. Either way, I would like to achieve a full IPv6 control plane. On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 2:46 PM Saku Ytti wrote: > I'm pretty sure that one or more of Mark, Gert or Tim are thinking > SR/MPLS IPv6 when they say

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jun/20 20:29, Tim Durack wrote: > I would take either LDPv6 or SRv6 - but also need L3VPN (and now EVPN) > re-wired to use IPv6 NH. At the moment, LDPv6 doesn't have what I call "service" support, i.e., l3vpn's, l2vpn's, MPLSv6-TE, mLDP, CsC, e.t.c. To be honest, I don't mind those so

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Saku Ytti
I'm pretty sure that one or more of Mark, Gert or Tim are thinking SR/MPLS IPv6 when they say SRv6? No one in their right minds thinks SRv6 is a good idea, terrible snake oil and waste of NRE. SR/MPLS IPv6 of course is terrific. LDPv6 and SRv6 seem like an odd couple, LDPv6 SR/MPLS IPv6 seem far

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Tim Durack
I would take either LDPv6 or SRv6 - but also need L3VPN (and now EVPN) re-wired to use IPv6 NH. I have requested LDPv6 and SRv6 many times from Cisco to migrate the routing control plane from IPv4 to IPv6 I have lots of IPv6 address space. I don't have a lot of IPv4 address space. RFC1918 is not