On 1/29/13 1:20 AM, Rob McEwen wrote:
[...] the US Federal government:
(A) ...cannot do a darn thing without MASSIVE graft corruption... plus
massive overruns in costs... including a HEAVY dose of crony
capitalism where, often, the companies who get the contracts are the
ones who pad the
On 1/29/2013 7:43 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
The graft and corruption was in *private* industry, not the Federal
government, due to lack of regulation and oversight.
I never said there wasn't graft and corruption in private industry...
but that is anecdotal... hit and miss. In contrast,
On 1/29/13 7:43 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
On 1/29/13 1:20 AM, Rob McEwen wrote:
[...] the US Federal government:
(A) ...cannot do a darn thing without MASSIVE graft corruption... plus
massive overruns in costs... including a HEAVY dose of crony
capitalism where, often, the companies
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:20:25 -0500, Rob McEwen said:
The market will eventually sort this out... and in many cases already
has! Meanwhile, Amtrack and the Post Office show no signs of ever making
it without their MASSIVE taxpayer subsidies.
I can't speak to Amtrack, but a large part of the
On 1/29/2013 11:38 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
So where are all the arrests and convictions for the mortgage games and
other Wall Street malfeasance that led to the financial crisis of 2008?
Seems that was a tad more egregious than anything Enron did, so there should
have been more
- Original Message -
From: Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
What's different about the Post Office is that they're required to pre-fund
for 75 years. Yes, you read that right - they need to pay in *now* for
the pension fund of mail carriers who won't even be born for another
On 1/29/13 8:30 AM, Rob McEwen wrote:
On 1/29/2013 7:43 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
The graft and corruption was in *private* industry, not the Federal
government, due to lack of regulation and oversight.
I never said there wasn't graft and corruption in private industry...
but that is
On 1/29/2013 12:21 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
ill-informed racist
Really? And you call me a troll, too?
anti-Obama diatribe that has no place on this list.
I never said anything about Obama, but, at face value, the 'Disclose'
Act was totalitarian in nature. Something I'd expect to see
- Original Message -
From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
To: Rob McEwen r...@invaluement.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land
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So where are all the arrests and convictions for the mortgage games
s/CenturyLink/ATT and I've got plenty of good stories for you.
I think the big telcos these days simply don't care, and don't understand.
They hire sales drones from Wal-Mart, and expect them to put in orders
for longhaul circuits, or metro ethernet, and what you get is samples
of perfume or pizza
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Subject: Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land
s/CenturyLink/ATT and I've got plenty of good stories for you.
I think the big telcos these days simply don't care, and don't understand.
They hire sales drones from Wal-Mart, and expect them to put
. The first nationwide 4G network.
Original message
From: Brent Jones br...@brentrjones.com
Date: 01/28/2013 10:07 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Joe Maimon jmai...@ttec.com
Cc: North American Networking and Offtopic Gripes List nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest
On 28 January 2013 10:35, Warren Bailey
wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:
Spoken like a true ATT customer..;)
I've had an ATT FTTU in my bedroom closet, which was an Alcatel
HONT-C (4 POTS (unused), 1 Ethernet; 155.52 Mbps upstream and 622.08
Mbps downstream; shared with at most 32
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Constantine A. Murenin
muren...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, that's ATT for you: already has the network, already has the
price structure, already has the marketing going, already has all the
passive and active equipment installed that's capable of vastly
superior
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From: William Herrin [mailto:b...@herrin.us]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 3:18 PM
To: Constantine A. Murenin
Cc: North American Networking and Offtopic Gripes List
Subject: Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Constantine A. Murenin
My experience with one of the big 2 telcos in the USA is unbelievable even
now looking back a few months:
1. at my key network monitoring site telco Northern Telecom (before NT
changed their name to Nortel) SONET equipment circa 1995 kept failing,
taking legacy circuits down hard.
2. Escalating
On 28 January 2013 13:57, david peahi davidpe...@gmail.com wrote:
The above anecdote is typical in my experience with the telcos, and
underscores the need for a national broadband buildout in the USA, funded
and run by the Federal Government, based upon the Australian National
Broadband
Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
On 28 January 2013 13:57, david peahi davidpe...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.nbn.gov.au/2012/12/03/did-you-know-that-our-copper-network-is-being-switched-off/
Do they have any customers object?
I recall a few recent stories about Verizon having problems
--- muren...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com
Here is a link to the Australian National Broadband site, describing how the
existing telco-owned copper network will be switched off:
Anybody have some happy success stories to share about service in Qwest
service area post Centurylink acquisition?
yes. switched my WA residential to comcast. *much* happier.
randy
On 1/28/13 8:06 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
Anybody have some happy success stories to share about service in Qwest
service area post Centurylink acquisition?
yes. switched my WA residential to comcast. *much* happier.
Thanks, that made me laugh. Myself, for residential, have long left
On 1/28/2013 4:57 PM, david peahi wrote:
and underscores the need for a national broadband buildout in the USA, funded
and run by the Federal Government
Maybe Australia has a better track record... but over the past few
decades, the US Federal government:
(A) ...cannot do a darn thing without
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